2 corinthians 8:8-9

kerwin

2Co 8:7 But just as you excel in everything—in faith, in speech, in knowledge, in complete earnestness and in our love for you—see that you also excel in this grace of giving.
2Co 8:8 I am not commanding you, but I want to test the sincerity of your love by comparing it with the earnestness of others.
2Co 8:9 For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, so that you through his poverty might become rich.
2Co 8:10 And here is my advice about what is best for you in this matter: Last year you were the first not only to give but also to have the desire to do so.

so we will only consider this;;for your sakes he became poor;and was rich how?

who was Christ ??
what did he do so we have to gain??Ro 5:11 Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation

what is poor means ?Ro 15:8 For I tell you that Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf of God’s truth, to confirm the promises made to the patriarchs

what is Scriptures and Paul saying about Christ riches?Phil 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Phil 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Phil 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Phil 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross

what was his richness;to have worked as a carpenter? i do not think so,Heb 10:5 Therefore, when Christ Came into the world, he said:
“Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
but a body you prepared for me;

what was it that make us rich??Col 2:2 My purpose is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ

2Ti 1:9 who has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time,
2Ti 1:10 but it has now been revealed through the appearing of our Savior, Christ Jesus, who has destroyed death and has brought life and immortality to light through the gospel.

Jn 1:14 And the Word(Christ) was made flesh, and dwelt among us,
Jn 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Jn 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Pierre

He was rich in that he was God's heir. He did not have to lose his life for our sakes, but he did so that we could share in his inheritance.

Love in Christ,
Marty

kerwin!  How was Christ rich, here on earth?  Joseph was a poor Carpenter.  I belief that Christ was rich because He came from God Himself, and not out of the dust of the earth like us…He knew where He came from……He also had Gods Holy Spirit full strength, while we have it in measures….That makes Jesus rich in my eyes….and when we follow Jesus we too become rich….I feel very fortunate to have Gods Holy Spirit and thank God whenever I can, that He has called us out of the Catholic Church…. I also understand so much more then when we first became Christians.  I see looking back how God has worked in me…..
2 Corinth. 8:9 explains it very good….Even though He was rich, He became in the likeness of a Servant… and became poor for us….What greater Love has He, who gave His live for others, so we can live….That is rich, and not poor…..He now has immortality, He will never die again….

1Cr 2:9   But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.  

Scriptures also tells me that God has revealed things to us

1Cr 2:10   But God hath revealed [them] unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.  

And all these things Jesus knew before He became flesh……He experienced the love God has.  He was Gods delight before the world was in

Pro 8:22 ¶ The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.  

Pro 8:23   I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.  

Pro 8:24   When [there were] no depths, I was brought forth; when [there were] no fountains abounding with water.  

Pro 8:25   Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:  

Pro 8:26   While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.  

Pro 8:27   When he prepared the heavens, I [was] there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:  

Pro 8:28   When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:  

Pro 8:29   When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:  

Pro 8:30   Then I was by him, [as] one brought up [with him]: and I was daily [his] delight, rejoicing always before him;  

Some might think this is wisdom born, but that to me makes no sense since God always had wisdom….I believe it is talking bout Jesus….

Peace Irene

That is your opinion and you can have your opinion. I will have mine….Irene

kerwin

2Co 8:7 But just as you excel in everything—in faith, in speech, in knowledge, in complete earnestness and in our love for you—see that you also excel in this grace of giving.
2Co 8:8 I am not commanding you, but I want to test the sincerity of your love by comparing it with the earnestness of others.
2Co 8:9 For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, so that you through his poverty might become rich.
2Co 8:10 And here is my advice about what is best for you in this matter: Last year you were the first not only to give but also to have the desire to do so.

so we will only consider this;;for your sakes he became poor;and was rich how?
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who was Christ ??
what did he do so we have to gain??
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Ro 5:11 Not only is this
so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation

what is poor means ?
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Ro 15:8 For I tell you that Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf of God’s truth, to confirm the promises made to the patriarchs

what is Scriptures and Paul saying about Christ riches?
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Phil 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Phil 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Phil 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Phil 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross

what was his richness;to have worked as a carpenter? i do not think so,
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Heb 10:5 Therefore, when Christ Came into the world, he said:
“Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
but a body you prepared for me;

what was it that make us rich??
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Col 2:2 My purpose is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ

2Ti 1:9 who has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time,
2Ti 1:10 but it has now been revealed through the appearing of our Savior, Christ Jesus, who has destroyed death and has brought life and immortality to light through the gospel.

this shows who Christ was;
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Jn 1:14 And the Word(Christ) was made flesh, and dwelt among us,
Jn 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Jn 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Pierre
p.s.;Kerwin,I have double line the questions and what i have add the rest are the scriptures to backup my thoughts.

Kerwin

i do not grasp what you try to say,

but THE Word,, became flesh ,it shows God his father as to intervene for that purpose,but what part did Christ kept from being in heaven no one knows,

but what we know for sure is that he was in heaven before he came down from God,

if Christ would be a normal man he could not save anyone;
and many men have come in this world who served God from there tender age ,even came for the purpose of serving God before there birth exp;Samuel the prophet.

but no men what s whoever could be offering is live for all men.

this must be some one with the qualification and the status to allow him to do so,and then be approved by God,

so it could only be the first of creation,the only begotten son of God.why?

he is the elder,he is the legitimate son and the only one born of God,

this is not only for men that Christ dies but for all creation,on earth and in heaven,this is not a job for a man in flesh,

this is a job cut out for the son of God to do.

Pierre

kerwin

Jesus became poor in that he gave up his heavenly nature, spirit, and became man. He hat to do that in order to die for us, humans.

Enoch, and Elijah, did not ascend to heaven.

Jhn 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Georg