1 corinthians 15:50

WJ,

Jesus grew in grace and knowledge. Yes Jesus lived a life without sin, but got tested him so he could learn about the weakness of man's flesh and the strength of God's Spirit. Yes Jesus was perfect IN THE SENSE that at all times he was a man without sin. The following scripture however states that Jesus LEARNED OBEDIENCE, and that he was PERFECTED THROUGH that which he suffered. So in ANOTHER SENSE Jesus was clearly not considered perfect by God's standards. Jesus was put into positions of being tested that he could prove the power of God's Spirit that was in him over the weakness of his flesh. God knew the power, but the point of the testing was to PROVE it to Jesus, unto his MIND. How would Jesus have known that the obedience through the power of God's Spirit was in him, if God didn't ever test it? His mind needed to be aware of it, and it is that knowledge created through that testing that built great Faith in Jesus over his God and Father.

Hebrews 5:8 though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered. 9  And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him,

You say, “The Greek word for perfection also means “to carry through completely, to accomplish, finish, bring to an end”!”

You are seriously twisting things here, it says “having been perfected, which occurred through what he suffered. This is not fitting your definition from above. The scripture is speaking of a man having been seen as being perfected by God through what God had made him suffer.

The MAN anointed with God's Spirit declared to be the Son of God, though he was a Son, he still needed to learn obedience, and he learned such being sent out into the wilderness not being given any food, and he learned such before he died on the cross.

Philippians 2:5  Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus,  6  who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,  7  but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.  8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.  9  Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,  10  that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,  

Once again you choose to look at Christ not as in the flesh and you give a doctrine of antichrist.

The Christ, MAN IN the Flesh, was in the form of God, what does that mean?… he was not actually flesh, but God? NO, of course not, we are to believe that Jesus was in fact FLESH. What did Jesus have that would give him the form of God?…..he was GIVEN God's POWERS and he used them in the eyes of thousands of people who would have saw him in the form of a god, and having been anointed with God's Powers he truly was in the form of God, and it was through these gifts that he found himself equal with God having His SAME powers.  He was found in appearance as a man, what could that mean? WJ, are you trying to tell us Jesus was not really a man, he just appeared to be a man? Hogwash. Jesus was being seen by many as a god for what he was performing, but his appearance was as a man, because he was a man. We know this for a fact because he is born of the seed of David, and scripture calls him a man countless times. Christ, the man we are to believe came to us in in the FLESH, humbled himself and made himself a servant. Some God did not humble himself and become a man, that is ANTICHRIST teaching. Christ having great powers did not use those powers for himself, instead he was a SERVANT with those powers to God and to you and me.

God highly exalted THIS Christ, the man of the Flesh who died on the cross for us.

Now Philippians 2:5 states, “let this mind be in you that was also in Christ.” Well if the representation of Christ is speaking of the mind of God that humbled himself and came down to earth, HOW CAN that MIND be IN US? That makes no sense, on top of the idea just being flat out antichrist in the first place.

Might Paul have been speaking to the people who were receiving individual gifts of the Holy Spirit, that they should keep themselves humble, making sure that they use their gifts to serve God and those in need, not being puffed up, but being like minded with Christ?

You seem to be the one who is very confused.

Jesus is flesh, he has a body of flesh and bones, as scripture clearly says he was raised with.

No sin was found IN that flesh.

How is saying that Jesus did not have sinful flesh, but flesh without sin, not saying he was flesh?

By saying that “Jesus was flesh period,” I was saying, obviously, that Jesus was not flesh AND the One True God, or flesh AND some immortal spirit son. As my point has been made before, Jesus being said to be anything more then flesh, is ANTICHRIST!!  Jesus does not exist as two different types of beings. He has always existed as a human being. He was born being able to die, but out of the promise, unlike other deaths, his flesh never saw corruption, but was raised with incorruption.

Your attempt at trying to accuse me of being confused I find  pathetic.

WJ,

I'd imagine you'd feel I'm being patronizing, for the heart behind my posts is a heart that finds your doctrine and approach to finding meaning in scripture to be very bothersome, because I find it so blatantly antichrist, it truly blows my mind.

You see the word CHRIST, and define the person, not as being the man in the flesh, but as the pre-existing God you think he is, and in doing so you destroy the whole message laid in the scripture that is talking about him.

Being told that Jesus came in the flesh, is not being told that God came in the flesh, it is being told that JESUS, the NAME given to the man born of Mary with David's seed, actually did come in the flesh, verses the rumors that were being spread saying he was otherwise.