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Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2012,15:41) Quote (Wakeup @ July 27 2012,12:11) EDJ. Just answer a simple question with a simple answer.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,What question?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.Your answer: The anointed cherub is lucifer: correct.
Now lucifer became satan.yes/no?
wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,11:12) Yep
EdJ.
So satan was the anointed cherub that covered.
And he was indeed brought down in rev.12.in the war in heaven.And he will be extinct.So how can you say that he is the I AM?
Where is it in scripture that says Satan is the I AM?I AM CAN ONLY BE APPLIED TO GOD.none other.
There is no other I AM but God.
When God said I AM,he means I AM ALL; he is the creator and he is all that happened in the universe.All is framed by the word of God,the angels included.He created good and evil, he kills and makes alive.
He detroys and he rebuild.Satan can not operate without God,can he? There is no sin without God would there?
There is no good without God would there?I AM can never be applied to satan,dont treat I AM lightly.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,
God never said that; {εγω ειμι} ego eimi {'i am'} is Greek.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,12:30) Hi Wakeup, God never said that; {εγω ειμι} ego eimi {'i am'} is Greek.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Satan never said that he is the I am either.?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 28 2012,13:10) Quote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,12:30) Hi Wakeup, God never said that; {εγω ειμι} ego eimi {'i am'} is Greek.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Satan never said that he is the I am either.?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,2 Thess 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,
or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
showing himself that he is God. (I told you how this is done)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,15:50) Quote (Wakeup @ July 28 2012,13:10) Quote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,12:30) Hi Wakeup, God never said that; {εγω ειμι} ego eimi {'i am'} is Greek.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Satan never said that he is the I am either.?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,2 Thess 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,
or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
showing himself that he is God. (I told you how this is done)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.I could not recall,so please tel us again.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 28 2012,16:22) Quote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,15:50) Quote (Wakeup @ July 28 2012,13:10) Quote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,12:30) Hi Wakeup, God never said that; {εγω ειμι} ego eimi {'i am'} is Greek.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Satan never said that he is the I am either.?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,2 Thess 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,
or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
showing himself that he is God. (I told you how this is done)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.I could not recall,so please tel us again.
wakeup.
Under the title 'i am'.Quote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,15:50) Quote (Wakeup @ July 28 2012,13:10) Quote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,12:30) Hi Wakeup, God never said that; {εγω ειμι} ego eimi {'i am'} is Greek.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Satan never said that he is the I am either.?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,2 Thess 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,
or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
showing himself that he is God. (I told you how this is done)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.This is now going to prophesy.
when the false prophet is ruling,he will close down all places of worship;al of them.
And he alone must be worshipped as God.
This is God working, to punish all those false religions.
They will close down.(shut). and burned. Scripture?Rev.17:16. And the 10 horns (all on the one head) which thou sawest upon the beast,these shall hate the whore,and shall make her DESOLATE and NAKED, and shall eat her flesh and burn her with fire.
(this include the muslim religions too).HE(false proph.) does not consider any other worship but him alone.
wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ July 09 2010,07:46) This title (i am) has even infiltrated into the Church, causing much division therein. Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my (Christian) name,
saying, i am; and shall deceive many.2Thess.2:1-4 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together
unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as
from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not
come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who
opposeth and exalteth himself above (YHVH=63) all that is “called God”=63, or that is worshipped;
so that he as (i am)God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he(Lucifer) is God.Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Colossians 2:22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?
1 Timothy 1:3 As I besought thee to abide still at Ephesus, when I went into Macedonia, that thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine,
1 Timothy 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 14 2012,06:27) Quote (Ed J @ July 09 2010,07:46) This title (i am) has even infiltrated into the Church, causing much division therein. Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my (Christian) name,
saying, i am; and shall deceive many.2Thess.2:1-4 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together
unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as
from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not
come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who
opposeth and exalteth himself above (YHVH=63) all that is “called God”=63, or that is worshipped;
so that he as (i am)God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he(Lucifer) is God.Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Colossians 2:22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?
1 Timothy 1:3 As I besought thee to abide still at Ephesus, when I went into Macedonia, that thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine,
1 Timothy 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Yes, those verses are very important, Im glad we agree on them!
Yes, this is a time of great deception; but since I have identified who
'the son of perdition' is, it is time for us to be gathering back to Christ. (see 2Thess.2:1-4)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgED J……..Brother the word Licifuer is not Satan as you assume it is. Do this one thing for me OK, God to where God Told Ezekiel to take this proverb to the King of Babolyn. Please notice that he said this proverb Now go and look up what a Proverb is and you woill find it means a fictious illustration a proverb can n ot be taken literially Ed J is a example given to the King of Bablyon describing the way he was thinking another word how puffed up his heart was. It has nothing to do with a Lufifier or Satan “being” of any kind. IMO
The man of Sin mentioned in 2Ths 2 is not a Person it is a false “image” of Jesus being portrayed as a GOD There is no real man of Sin there only the image of Jesus being Portrayed as a God , this false teaching He himself will destory at his return by his very own word (breath of his mouth) . This is the lie that is mentioned there it is lie about Jesus, which creates this false image of Him being a God Think about it brother.
peace and love to you and yours brother…………………………………………………………………..gene
Hi Gene,
What say you about Ezekiel 28:5-17? …this too is referencing Lucifer
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 15 2012,02:30) ED J……..Brother the word Licifuer is not Satan as you assume it is. Do this one thing for me OK, God to where God Told Ezekiel to take this proverb to the King of Babolyn. Please notice that he said this proverb Now go and look up what a Proverb is and you woill find it means a fictious illustration a proverb can n ot be taken literially Ed J is a example given to the King of Bablyon describing the way he was thinking another word how puffed up his heart was. It has nothing to do with a Lufifier or Satan “being” of any kind. IMO The man of Sin mentioned in 2Ths 2 is not a Person it is a false “image” of Jesus being portrayed as a GOD There is no real man of Sin there only the image of Jesus being Portrayed as a God , this false teaching He himself will destory at his return by his very own word (breath of his mouth) . This is the lie that is mentioned there it is lie about Jesus, which creates this false image of Him being a God Think about it brother.
peace and love to you and yours brother…………………………………………………………………..gene
Hi Gene,Jesus' connection to Lucifer is spelled out in this thread… (Link to thread)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgED j……..Ezk 28 : 1-17…..> Is not a “Proverb” and it Plainly say He was a MAN, go up to chapter 2 where it say he was a man and the word Lucifer is not even mentioned there at all. Ed j your forcing the text brother. The other text where it say Lucifer, is being used as a “Proverb” which is a FICTITIOUS ILLUSTRATION and cannot be taken literally. IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 15 2012,22:51) ED j……..Ezk 28 : 1-17…..> Is not a “Proverb” and it Plainly say He was a MAN, go up to chapter 2 where it say he was a man and the word Lucifer is not even mentioned there at all. Ed j your forcing the text brother. The other text where it say Lucifer, is being used as a “Proverb” which is a FICTITIOUS ILLUSTRATION and cannot be taken literally. IMO peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………gene
Hi Gene, please answer my “TWO”(2) questions WITH SEPARATE ANSWERS FOR EACH please; OK1) Are you suggesting that the 'Prince of Tyrus' was Adam in the garden of Eden? (See Ezekiel 28:13)
2) And are you also suggesting that a man was “the anointed cherub that covereth” (See Ezekiel 28:14)כְּרוּב Cherub: An angelic being
It would seem that you really don't know
who 'the son of perdition' really is B-R-O-T-H-E-R.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgED J……No i am not suggesting that , i am saying it plainly say he was a “MAN”. It is clearly written there brother. No scripture say Satan is a MAN now does it? I am not also suggesting the Man was a Cherub. Lock closely at what God said He (the Prince of Tyer ) set his heart as these things, no where does it say he was those things think about it Ed j. Have you look up what the Word (proverb) mean yet ED? it will help you understand Ezk 28:1-17.
Ed what you are doing is pulling thing out of context and applying different meanings to them IMO.
peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………………………gene
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