Reply To: Even demons believe he is the son of God

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Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 04 2013,05:22)
Wakeup,

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THERE ARE NO SCRIPTURE EITHER THAT SAYS THE DEAD
WILL BE RAISED IN THE FLESH.
SO WE NEED TO USE DISCERNMENT.NEED TO KNOW HOW TO DECERN SCRIPTURES.

It is assumed by certain Scriptures and not explicitly written.  

Yes, a man has to use the discernment given by the Spirit to know Spiritual things.

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Acts 1:3
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
3 to whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:

THE WORD *SHOWED* TELLS US THAT HE CAN ALSO *NOT* SHOW HIMSELF. BE INVISIBLE.

No,  It tells us that he could have instead chosen not to show himself alive after his passion.

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ARE ANGELS NOT SPIRIT? HAVE YOU AVER SEEN
FALLEN ANGELS IN THE FLESH? HAVE YOU, OR ANYONE EVER SEEN SATAN IN THE FLESH?

People have treated angels unknowingly so I would not know unless I was informed or the angel(s) chose to tip there hand(s).  

God reveals what he chooses to me and hides what he chooses from me.  There could be a legion of angels in a field and I would not see a one.

Angels have miraculous powers but that does not make them spirits.

You are supporting the idea that spirits can be both touched and eat without considering the ramifications to Jesus' case that laid out to his students to prove he was not a spirit.  

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WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL ME HERE?
YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT WE ARE ALL FLESH,UNTILL
THE CHANGE. FROM FLESH TO SPIRIT.

You cannot save flesh by changing it to something else.  For example claiming I saved all the sugar in the house by baking it into a huge birthday cake does not really any of the sugar.

Sugar is only saved if it remains sugar and flesh is only saved if it remains flesh.

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THIS VERSE MUST BE MISSING IN YOUR BIBLE.
John 5:26   For as the Father hath *life in himself*; so hath he given to the Son to ***have life in himself***;
BTW: HE ALSO CREATED ALL LIFE IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH.

I have read it and it does not say Jesus is a life giving spirit.  It states both Jesus and God have life in themselves.  It sounds like it has more to do with this passage.

Romans 8:2
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

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I KNOW WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM.
AS I SAY YOUR STUMBLING BLOCK IS THE APPEARING OF JESUS IN THE FLESH,AND THINKING THAT HE MUST BE FLESH. NOT KNOWING THAT THE SPIRIT CAN APPEAR AS FLESH,AND DISAPPEAR.
IF SATAN IS FLESH,THAN SOME MUST HAVE SEEN HIM
DURING THE 4000YRS. AND ALSO THE FALLEN ANGELS.

I have heard people claim that a spirit can appear as flesh but I have never found it written.  

I have my doubts angel flesh is like the even the flesh of man before the fall as they are created of heaven and we of earth.

Jesus and those that rose with him on that day and others are another matter as their original bodies were made of earth.

Jesus said he was flesh and bone and he made the argument that that meant he was not a spirit.  Your words are in conflict with his.


As I have said.
Your stumbling block is the appearing of Jesus in the flesh.

Jesus is definitely not sitting next to His father clothed in the flesh.You dont make any difference between life in heaven and life on earth.

The 24 elders and billions of angels are definitely not before the throne of God in the flesh.
You say that only evil spirits are spirit.
I say that they can also appear as flesh,but only by the
will of God.

You must also know the difference between evil spirits and evil angels.
Evil spirits are the souls of them giants and their wives
and children that died in the flood.
Their souls are not accepted in heaven,so they just wonder around in the earth,and in the dry desert.

There is the body;and there is the soul.
The body is material;the soul is spiritual.
The resurrection will be of the soul,not the flesh.
The flesh will just evaporate.

There is the breath of life that gives life *to the flesh*.
And the soul is the essence of the persons life.
His works during his lifetime.
Either good works or bad works.

Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; ***and their works do follow them***.
THEIR WORKS;GOOD WORKS OR BAD WORKS.

wakeup.

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