Reply To: The Trinity Doctrine

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mikeboll64
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Hey all,

Once again I will try to practice the KISS theory (Keep It Simple Stupid)

The Trinity Doctrine states in effect:
There is one God-head.  This God-head is one being shared by three co-eternal, co-equal persons; Father, Son and Holy Spirit.  They are all God, but each plays different roles.  In fact, St. Augustine wrote, “There is so great an equality in that Trinity, that not only the Father is not greater than the Son, as regards divinity, but neither are the Father and Son together greater than the Holy Spirit.”

So, in terms any 5th grader can understand, I'll try to explain to you how, if you believe the Word of God, this cannot be.

Right away, the Trinity Doctrine poses a problem because God is, “…from everlasting to everlasting…” according to Moses in Psalm 90:2.  And Jesus is, “…the firstborn of all creation.” (Colossians 1:15)  So just from two Scriptures, we learn that God has no beginning and no end, while Jesus was born or created.

But, just to make sure they're not co-equal, let's look at another Scripture.  In John 14:28, Jesus says, “…the Father is greater than I.”  Now, the Trinitarians like to say that this one doesn't count, because when Jesus said that, he was a man.

Okay, are there similar Scriptures that echo the same sentiment?  How about Phillipians 2:6?  After Jesus had ascended and Paul was speaking through the Holy Spirit (because we know all Scripture is inspired of God), he said that Jesus, “…did not consider equality with God something to be grasped…”  But maybe Jesus hadn't “become God” yet.
How about in Revelation, a prophecy of what will take place in the future.  Is Jesus God then?  In Revelation 19:10, John tries to worship an angel, but is told, “Do not do it!  I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus.  Worship God!”  Notice the angel didn't say, “…testimony of Jesus, worship him!”  Also note that at the time Jesus showed John the revelation, he was already in heaven and sitting at the right hand of God, but still not God.

So, co-equal is shot down by Scripture, how about co-eternal?  Well, eternal means without beginning or end.  I already showed you in Scripture that Jesus, unlike God, had a beginning.  

And Romans 6:9 says, “For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again…”  So now we learn that Jesus was not originally created immortal.  He could, and did die.

The Trinity Doctrine is flawed by its very definition.

Nevertheless, there are 10 Scriptures out of thousands that Trinitarians use the most to try and prove Jesus is God.  
They are:

1.  John 1:1, “the Word was God”

2.  John 1:18, “the Only Begotten God”

3.  John 20:28, “My Lord and my God”

4.  Titus 2:13, “our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ”

5.  Hebrews 1:6, “Your throne, O God, will last forever”

6.  John 17:5, “Father, glorify me”

7.  John 8:58, “before Abraham was born, I am”

8.  John 14:9, “Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father”

9.  Hebrews 1:3, “The Son is the radiance of God's glory”

10. John 2:19, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it”

Trinitarians, ask yourselves, based on information found in  the other Scriptures, “Does the person talking in any of these Scriptures think Jesus is God?”

I'd like to discuss any of your thoughts.

Peace on earth to men of good will,

Mike

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