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January 28, 2016 at 9:55 am#808041
Proclaimer
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Not that simple Terr. If parts of Europe become predominately Muslim, then they could take over with population alone. Muammar Gaddafi said the following quote, way before Europe became flooded with Muslim refugees.
We have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe—without swords, without guns, without conquest—will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades.
Can you deny the possibility?
January 28, 2016 at 12:27 pm#808062
terraricca
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t8
of course not ,this remain a possibility for sure but we also have to see 450 millions other people right ?
so let wait and see the next couple years ;and see if some of those 450 millions are ready to do some thing
January 29, 2016 at 6:34 pm#808127
Ed J
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(1)The bible asserts islam is destined for destruction.
EdJ, the bible asserts the sinner is destined for destruction. That can include the Christian, as I’m sure you should know. “Lord, Lord, did we not prophecy in your name, and in your name cast out demons, and work miracles in your name”? Then I will declare to them, “I never knew you. Away from me you workers of Lawlessness”. (Matt 7.22).
(2)Don’t be too cosy.
Hi Miia,
1) See Rev 19:19-21
2) It’s very cozy in the bosom of the father
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God bless
Ed J
January 29, 2016 at 6:40 pm#808128
Ed J
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Not that simple Terr. If parts of Europe become predominately Muslim, then they could take over with population alone. Muammar Gaddafi said the following quote, way before Europe became flooded with Muslim refugees.
We have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe—without swords, without guns, without conquest—will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades.
Can you deny the possibility?
Hi T8,
President Trump is sending them back, so the “The U.S.A.”
“WILL BE” purged of this evil onslaught.
United we stand!
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Your brother
in Christ
Ed J
January 29, 2016 at 8:53 pm#808131
Miia
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Sometimes, Ed, ‘you just make me wanna scream’.
Donald Trump is your new saviour.
January 29, 2016 at 9:45 pm#808135
kerwin
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Ed,
Islam has been in Europe for a long time. There is most likely a growth as people are living Islamic held lands that are having troubles and moving to the area with declining populations of Secularists and Atheists. It looks to me like God is giving them the land for his own reasons. One of those seem to be that they are better at obeying the command to be fruitful and multiply.
January 30, 2016 at 7:18 am#808144
Ed J
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One of those seem to be that they are better at obeying the command to be fruitful and multiply.
Hi Kerwin,
Are you now claiming they are following the commands of God better than Christians?
“Neither shall he multiply wives to himself” (Deuteronomy 17:17)
“If any be blameless, (he is) the husband of one wife” (Titus 1:6)
“But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;
And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.
What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. (Mark 10:6-9)
And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter.
And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another,
committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband,
and be married to another, she committeth adultery.” (Mark 10:10-12)
January 30, 2016 at 7:31 am#808145
Ed J
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“Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven
image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth
beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down
thyself to them” (Ex 20:3-5)
January 30, 2016 at 9:46 am#808153
kerwin
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Ed,
Scripture never bans the laity from having multiple wives. It is only the leadership that is banned from having multiple wives. Islam is divided on the issue with some frowning on it as they believe it leads to oppression because the male responsibilities increase as the number of wives increase. It is banned is some Islamic countries such as Turkey.
White Europeans are a dying people and that is partially due to them embracing the doctrine of population control. As they die out their is a need of younger workers to perform the labor necessary to take care of the older. In economic terms it creates a need for young workers and as often happens when their is a surplus of laborers more workers apply for the jobs than are actually needed. That leaves young peoples with nothing to do and that is known to breed trouble in any human society.
From what I know, so called Christians are just as like to embrace the doctrine of population control. God’s command to be fruitful and multiply is just good sense as the creature who has more children that survive to have even more children will be the more numerically dominate people.
January 30, 2016 at 12:40 pm#808155
Ed J
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Hi Kerwin,
So you agree then that Muhammad was guilty of this?
January 30, 2016 at 12:59 pm#808157
kerwin
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Ed,
Mahomet is a false prophet so he is guilt of sin. He also violated the command to have but one wife as a shepherd of God’ s people but the heresy itself is enough to brand him as a sinner the rest belabors the point.
January 30, 2016 at 1:51 pm#808158
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We are told what the Antichrist spirit denies the Father and Son. They deny that Jesus is the son of God and that God is the Father.
Islam, the second biggest religion on the planet, dominates the area around the Great Sea where the Beast resides. One of the main tenets of Islam is that God has no son. This is even written on the Dome of the Rock where the Holy Place was located. This has to be a religion of the Antichrist if we use the biblical definition of ‘Antichrist’.
Is it all just a coincidence with no real meaning as some make out, or is it what it appears to be.
The seven churches in Revelation were located in an area that is now Islamic and in the country where the capital of the Ottoman Empire was located. The Middle East was once full of Christians, but they have nearly been made extinct through tribulations and forced conversion to Islam, or have been driven out due to persecution and high taxes that Muslims impose on Christians. I know someone personally whose family left Lebanon because of persecution and high taxes due to being Christian. Historically Muslims have been very cruel to Christians and this is still evident today with the few that are left. Of course cruelity can be done by people of all faiths and races, but no one can deny that Muslims have been very cruel to Christians. The lack of Christians in that area of the world speaks for itself. Islam also persecutes itself Shia Sunni conflicts as I guess there are much less Christians to taunt. Here is a prophecy given to Ishmael that seems to aptly describe the personality.
He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”
The second thing that is hugely significant to me is that the kingdoms that make up the Beast succeeded the previous. We see this pattern clearly with Babylon, Media Persia, Greece, Rome all succeeding the previous empire. The Ottoman was the next one to rise making it the seventh in a line if we count. We need to of course add in the two before Babylon, i.e., Egypt, and Persia. The Ottomans were not considered an empire till they took Constantinople which was the capital of the Roman Empire. So they succeeded the Romans and reigned for the next 600 years. We are told in scripture that the eighth king is of the seventh or seven. So a rise of an Islamic Empire would certainly fit the description, but even an Islamic Europe would fit the bill too. But know this, that all these empires were located where Islam is at its strongest. While much of Europe is not Islamic, it is increasingly so.
Please understand this though. I am not saying this theory is the one for sure, but that it ticks a lot of boxes. There are other viable theories out there too, but this one has a lot more going for it than what I have explained in this post.
Is Islam the Beast?
January 30, 2016 at 1:56 pm#808159
Ed J
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Hi Kerwin,
He’s more than ‘a’ false prophet, he is ‘THE’ false prophet of Revelation.
Muhammad was ten for ten in breaking all ten of God’s 10 commandments.
You probably did not know this, but Muhammad died from eating poison lamb.
It’s ironic considering he taught his followers to reject the lamb of God.
Islam is the last great evil that God warned us about – the battle of Armageddon
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God bless
Ed J
January 30, 2016 at 3:19 pm#808166
kerwin
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Ed,
I know he is not the false prophet because he is dead and Revelations treats the false as if he were alive. Those who are living now twist his words to support their teachings. There is no remembrance of him anymore.
Let us assume Ecclesiastes is wrong and there is a remembrance of him despite his soul being in Sheol and his body decaying in its burial place.
His teaching would have to go throughout the world and be accepted by the general populace and I do not see that happening. What I do see is that even Islam is falling to Secularism. If Islamic conservatives, not necessary extremist seize power in a government the Secularists seize it back using fair means or foul. Unless something changes your fears of Islam are groundless.
January 30, 2016 at 3:33 pm#808167
kerwin
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t8,
Why are you implying that the book of Revelation disagrees with the book of Daniel, According to Daniel the statue is destroyed and by the kingdom of God and then the kingdom grows throughout the Land. There is simply not room for the beast in the Lands of the Kingdom of Babylon. Of course there are other places around the Great Sea, including parts of the EU and the lands of the Western Roman Empire. There is also a number of African countries.
January 31, 2016 at 12:03 am#808174
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His teaching would have to go throughout the world and be accepted by the general populace and I do not see that happening. What I do see is that even Islam is falling to Secularism. If Islamic conservatives, not necessary extremist seize power in a government the Secularists seize it back using fair means or foul. Unless something changes your fears of Islam are groundless.
Kerwin. The Roman Empire trampled the whole world/earth. Yet that world turns out to be the Middle East and Europe. Islam also did the same thing.
“He gave me this explanation: ‘The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth. It will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushing it.
Did it trample China, Australia, The Americas, Russia?
Further, Islam has spread around the globe anyway. Indonesia near Australia has more Muslim’s than any other nation for example. But certainly its stronghold is the Middle East and Israel is smack in the middle of it too. A Beast ready to devour her.
January 31, 2016 at 12:06 am#808175
Miia
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“Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven
image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth
beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down
thyself to them” (Ex 20:3-5)
Ed, why only post a picture of Muslims? Why not post a picture of the six million who turn up to see the pope, (who apparently is God to them – I heard), or the crowds at American Rock concerts, or Barak Obama? I’ll post them for you.
January 31, 2016 at 12:13 am#808176
Miia
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“He gave me this explanation: ‘The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth. It will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushing it.
Did it trample China, Australia, The Americas, Russia?
Further, Islam has spread around the globe anyway. Indonesia near Australia has more Muslim’s than any other nation for example. But certainly its stronghold is the Middle East and Israel is smack in the middle of it too. A Beast ready to devour her.
The thing, t8 which has spread around the globe, starting with the West is sin. It ENDS with the East, imo.
January 31, 2016 at 8:19 am#808186
Ed J
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“Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven
image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth
beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down
thyself to them” (Ex 20:3-5)
Ed, (1)why only post a picture of Muslims? (2)Why not post a picture of the six million who turn up to see the pope, (3)(who apparently is God to them – I heard), or the crowds at American Rock concerts, or Barak Obama? I’ll post them for you.
Hi Miia,
1) Because the muslims are bowing down to the likeness of a thing that is in the Earth.
2) Do you consider people showing up to an event that it means they are ‘bowing down’?
3) I see you are a bit confused on this point. When someone is called ‘a god’ of Rock and Roll,
they are not saying the person is supreme, but rather that their skill level is what is supreme.
So you are a little off base in this matter with your comparison.
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God bless
Ed J
January 31, 2016 at 11:13 am#808193
kerwin
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@t8,
Kerwin. The Roman Empire trampled the whole world/earth. Yet that world turns out to be the Middle East and Europe. Islam also did the same thing.
According to the prophecy of Daniel there will be only five empires from the time of Nebuchadnezzar to the Messianic Age.
1) The golden head = Neo-Babylonian Empire
2) The silver chest and arms = Mede-Persian Empire
3) The bronze thighs and waist = Greek Empire and their offspring
4) The iron legs = The Roman Empire both East and West though East is more appropriate.
5) The feet of iron mixed with clay = The independent states that are now there.
For this prophecy to be true the the Ottoman Empire either belongs to the iron legs or the feet of iron mixed with clay. The first Ottoman Emperor claimed his Empire was the Roman and according to prophecy the iron and clay could not be either domestic or foreign powers so I agree with him.
The Rashidun Caliphate actually encroached on Roman Lands in the area for about Thirty years but the Eastern Roman Empire was still in existence during that time so such an encroachment is not mentioned in the prophecy. Unless the beast encroaches in the territory covered in the prophesy then there is no room for it in the area as the kingdoms in that area are covered. Unless it has some unity with the Roman Empire Isis will fail in its endeavors to unify the kingdoms of that area. The Secularist that are also attempting to unify the area will also fail though they may be forge a weak confederacy.
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