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This could be the most shocking video you will every watch if even half of it is true. I personally have not checked out the statistics mentioned in the video and I’m also not promoting the group that created the video either. What I am doing is showing you a potential future for Europe, UK, USA, Canada, and possibly Australia. It may seem far-fetched today, but if the statistics are true, it could be a reality in a matter of decades perhaps even less.

It also ties in with this end-time view if you want to learn more about this possible future:

Is Islam the Beast?

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  • December 30, 2015 at 12:55 am#806717
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    Christianity and Judaism have books (Bible and Talmud) which talks about killing men, woman and children.

    As for the Talmud that is another story, needless to say, we do not cut off their heads miia, we should love them instead.

    Now to the Bible. Is it telling you to kill men, woman, and children anywhere? If so, let’s discuss this before you act.

    You are merely referring to historical events during war when God cut off an evil branch for purposes of saving much evil later on. Pity the souls that grow on an evil branch, but God is God and he is sovereign. I have no problem with God. He knows more than I do.

    Now to the Koran. It is not talking about an incident like that in history miia. When it tells people to behead and kill Christians and Jews, it is telling them this now because they have not accepted Allah and his prophet etc.

    Jesus taught that we should love one another in contrary to the Law and an eye for an eye. Jesus never taught us that it was noble to die in Jihad. He rebuked Peter when he cut someones ear off with a sword. We do not take up literal swords, but the word of God.

    You speak badly about the Bible if you think some verses equate to these Koran verses. But you are entitled to your opinion of course, even if those under Islam do not think you are entitled to your view.

    I do not really believe that you think Islam is that great or beneficial however. Rather I think you are just upset that I told you off by showing you where you erred with me. Some people when rebuked rather than see the rebuke as a way to improve themselves, pride rises up and they start to talk irrationally and in opposition to the person they are upset about and in support of the opposite view of the person they are upset about. If they continue this way, they usually dig themselves a hole and cannot get out because they even go to the extent sometimes of saying things they do not believe themselves, but only say it to offend in order to try and offend the person.

    I hope you are not doing that because you will only hurt yourself. Best thing a person can do is just apologize if they accuse someone of something they didn’t say. Be humble and admit the error. It is good for the soul, good for the person who was accused, and is a good example for others who read this way.

    Proverbs 9:8
    Do not rebuke mockers or they will hate you; rebuke the wise and they will love you.

    Proverbs 9:9
    Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be still wiser; teach a righteous man, and he will increase in learning.

    Ecclesiastes 7:5
    It is better to heed the rebuke of a wise person than to listen to the song of fools.

    Proverbs 17:10
    A single rebuke does more for a person of understanding than a hundred lashes on the back of a fool.

    The Message
    If you reason with an arrogant cynic, you’ll get slapped in the face; confront bad behavior and get a kick in the shins. So don’t waste your time on a scoffer; all you’ll get for your pains is abuse. But if you correct those who care about life, that’s different—they’ll love you for it! Save your breath for the wise—they’ll be wiser for it; tell good people what you know—they’ll profit from it.

    December 30, 2015 at 11:07 pm#806755
    Miia
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    t8.

    You asked what I learned with Islam.

    I saw people who stopped whatever they were doing, wherever they were, get on their knees and pray throughout the day.

    I saw people who refused to drink wine and eat pork, even if they were forced to in camps like Guantanamo.

    I learned that Mohammad did not like pictures/ images.

    I learned to treat animals better.

    I saw a people who defended their faith and lived for God, and much more.

    Allah, BTW is Arabic for God, whom they believe is the God of the Bible.

    I saw a Muslim preacher mocking the fact that Christians call Jesus the Son of God and I decided that I did not want to be a Muslim.

    Then I saw Muslims throughout the world having dreams and visions of Jesus (Isa) calling them to come to him, and I saw them responding.

    I learned that because a majority of Christians have chosen to save their own life, truth is not getting to the Muslims. We have failed.

    I see Syrian refugees, and think of what Jesus said to feed the hungry, give water to the thirsty, care for the suffering. And I see Christians who warn us against helping the refugees, by warning that ISIS could be among them – how weak, and anti christlike.

    So, your Christmas day video upset me: https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/islamic-immigration/#post-806516

    Rather I think you are just upset that I told you off by showing you where you erred with me. Some people when rebuked rather than see the rebuke as a way to improve themselves, pride rises up and they start to talk irrationally and in opposition to the person they are upset about and in support of the opposite view of the person they are upset about. If they continue this way, they usually dig themselves a hole and cannot get out because they even go to the extent sometimes of saying things they do not believe themselves, but only say it to offend in order to try and offend the person.

    I hope you are not doing that because you will only hurt yourself. Best thing a person can do is just apologize if they accuse someone of something they didn’t say. Be humble and admit the error. It is good for the soul, good for the person who was accused, and is a good example for others who read this way.

    t8, 😀

    Upset you told me off? I never even noticed you had, lol.

    My mind was on the topic, in which I have much more to say.

    BUT, I can see that the word i used – hate – was too strong – and I apologize for that, and anything else I have wrong.

     

     

     

     

    December 30, 2015 at 11:50 pm#806756
    Miia
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    When it tells people to behead and kill Christians and Jews, it is telling them this now because they have not accepted Allah and his prophet etc.

    I have not seen that in the Quran, because I have not read the Quran. I only studied their religion/ people.

    Jesus taught that we should love one another in contrary to the Law and an eye for an eye. Jesus never taught us that it was noble to die in Jihad. He rebuked Peter when he cut someones ear off with a sword. We do not take up literal swords, but the word of God.

    How many Christians go to war, despite what Jesus said? How many Christians took part in the Crusades? What motivated George Bush to invade Iraq? What motivates Ed J to claim God is behind eliminating Muslim people in war?

    In the end we are humans, and God judges us on our physical and spiritual actions, because God knows the intentions of our hearts.

    December 31, 2015 at 12:01 am#806758
    Ed J
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    t8.

    You asked what I learned with Islam.

    I learned to treat animals better.

    Hi Miia,

    Did you know that Muhammad hated dogs, had black dogs killed
    and even barred people from bringing them into the city?

    December 31, 2015 at 12:04 am#806759
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Miia,

    Did you know according to ‘sharia law’ there is NO
    punishment for a muslim who kills a non-muslim?

    Perhaps you need to study up on your islam a tad bit more.

    December 31, 2015 at 12:10 am#806760
    Miia
    Participant

    Hi Miia,

    Did you know that Muhammad hated dogs, had black dogs killed
    and even barred people from bringing them into the city?

     

    I don’t like dogs either. Where i live, savage dogs have killed people.

    I have a Cat!

    December 31, 2015 at 12:17 am#806761
    Miia
    Participant

    Hi Miia,

    Did you know according to ‘sharia law’ there is NO
    punishment for a muslim who kills a non-muslim?

    Perhaps you need to study up on your islam a tad bit more.

    Hi Ed. What is sharia law — do all Muslims follow it?

    What does it have to do with Syrian refugees, and what Jesus taught us to do?

    December 31, 2015 at 12:17 am#806762
    Ed J
    Participant

    What motivates Ed J to claim God is behind eliminating Muslim people in war?

    Why are you saying that’s what I claim? I never said that ???

    What I said was: “The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth,
    even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens.”

    December 31, 2015 at 12:22 am#806763
    Miia
    Participant

    What motivates Ed J to claim God is behind eliminating Muslim people in war?

    Why are you saying that’s what I claim? I never said that ???

    What I said was: “The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth,
    even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens.”

    Nice try Ed.
    You have always said that God is behind the U.S army and its invasions, have you not?

    December 31, 2015 at 12:26 am#806764
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Ed. (1)What is sharia law — (2)do all Muslims follow it?

    Hi Miia,

    1) Looks like you need to brush up on your islam.

    2) They say that they do, but most don’t.

    December 31, 2015 at 12:31 am#806765
    Ed J
    Participant

    Nice try Ed.
    You have always said that God is behind the U.S army and its invasions, have you not?

    Hi Miia,

    No

    December 31, 2015 at 12:39 am#806766
    Miia
    Participant

    Hi Miia,

    No

    I remember you saying that by using bible verses years ago, and recently. Do I need to find the posts?

    How come you have no response to the verses I posted regarding caring for the needy regardless of their faith?

    The Spirit of Jesus has a heart, and we are all human. In the end, we are judged on what we did or did not do to other humans – either in physical action or heart. Do you agree?

    December 31, 2015 at 12:42 am#806767
    Ed J
    Participant

    “and them that worshipped his image”
    …”shall be tormented with fire”

    “Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works:
    but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images.” (Ex 23:24)

    December 31, 2015 at 12:50 am#806768
    Ed J
    Participant

    “The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth,
    even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens.”

    December 31, 2015 at 12:51 am#806769
    Miia
    Participant

    Ed, if you believe Muhammad is the false prophet, then what are you doing about it, (apart from spouting off about your so called knowledge)?

    t8, I just had a thought.
    Why fear Islamic Immigration (the title of this thread). It means Christians can help them.

    December 31, 2015 at 12:52 am#806770
    Ed J
    Participant

    Do I need to find the posts?

    Put up or shut up

    December 31, 2015 at 12:54 am#806771
    Miia
    Participant

    Put up or shut up

    I will find the posts when I have the time.

    December 31, 2015 at 12:55 am#806772
    Ed J
    Participant

    How come you have no response to the verses I posted regarding caring for the needy regardless of their faith?

    Hi Miia,

    Did you ever hear me say that we should not care for the needy?

    December 31, 2015 at 12:57 am#806773
    Miia
    Participant

    Hi Miia,

    Did you ever hear me say that we should not care for the needy?

    Are you worried about Syrian Refugees being in your country, Ed?

    December 31, 2015 at 1:02 am#806774
    Ed J
    Participant

    In the end, we are judged on what we did or did not do to other humans – either in physical action or heart. Do you agree?

    Hi Miia,

    My bible says that we are judged by what we say and what we do.

    Where does it say we are judged by what we think?

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