Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church

Balancing Rock Girraween

For many Christian denominations, the foundation of their faith is usually a version of the Trinity Doctrine in some form. But is this doctrine really the true foundation of the Church? Let’s take a look at the actual foundation that Jesus Christ built his Church on.

Matthew 16:13-18
13 Jesus came into the country of Caesarea Philippi. He asked His followers, “Who do people say that I, the Son of Man, am?”
14 They said, “Some say You are John the Baptist and some say Elijah and others say Jeremiah or one of the early preachers.”

15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
16 Simon Peter said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 Jesus said to him, “Simon, son of Jonah, you are happy because you did not learn this from man. My Father in heaven has shown you this.
18 “And I tell you that you are Peter. On this rock I will build My church. The powers of hell will not be able to have power over My church.

Read the above clearly. Jesus did not build his Church on Peter. He built it on the truth that Peter spoke concerning the true identity of Jesus Christ. And what was that truth? That Jesus is the Son of God and the Christ.

Peter did not say that Jesus was God or one member of a triune God, yet that is the foundation for many. So what is it that tries to fight against the true foundation? Is it not the Gates of Hell that is trying to prevail against this truth. But for what benefit is there to attack the true foundation of the Church, which is the Body of Christ?

Here is the thing. Roman Catholics believe that the foundation was Peter and this is where their line of Popes supposedly comes from. They also believe that the foundation of their faith is the Trinity Doctrine. Not only are they wrong, but their fruit over the centuries proves that this tree was not good.

So which is it? The Catholic faith or the true faith?

Many do not realise that they side with the Catholic faith. However, it is true that this faith and foundation cannot sustain eternally any work built upon her.

For they labour in vain those who build on another foundation.

Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 8:6: for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

He also wrote in Ephesians 4:5-6: one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

And Jesus said it so clearly in John 17:3: Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Are you willing to believe the truth about who God is and who Jesus is over any contrary tradition that was passed down to you?

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  • #832616
    Proclaimer
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    Well the choice is either Nick or Jesus is dodgy. Take you pick. I know who I am with.

    Jesus said: “But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one”

    Nick basically says: I will not answer yes or no to a yes no question, instead I will give you more than that so that I do not have to say ‘no’ outright, but can hide that ‘no; in the detail.

    Who would you choose Nick? Try to imagine Nick is another person.

    Nick or Jesus on this one?

    #832617
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    ‘The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because He anointed me…’

    ’Today this scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing’

    And all were speaking well of him and wondering at the gracious words

    which were falling from his lips:and they were saying

    ’Is this not Joseph’s son?’

     

    The Spirit manifested in him and some men noticed a change.

     

    #832618
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    No need to revert to your bullying ways when faced with the need to change your ideas.

    Take a deep breath..

    #832619
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    So Jesus is a bully because he said:

    “But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one”

    Because I am saying exactly what he said.

    And what of all the accusations you have leveled against the members here over the years? Not bullying? What do you call that then? Accusations?

    #832620
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Funny that. Cannot give a straight answer. Instead accuses other people to divert from attending to matters pertaining to himself. A tactic as old as Adam himself.

    And the man answered, “The woman whom You gave me, she gave me fruit from the tree, and I ate it.” Then the LORD God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” “The serpent deceived me,” she replied, “and I ate.”…

    #832621
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Look at the tagline for the site.

    Hold firmly to the truth, encourage by sound doctrine, & refute those who oppose it.

    If you cannot handle this, then you are in the wrong forum.

    #833061
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    Where are the words in the tagline that say that you alone understand the truth?

    #833220
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Those words don’t exist.

    I just quote scripture and that gets a reaction.

    #833224
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    Yes if only you could understand them.

    You need the salve for your eyes.

    #833291
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Hi T8,
    Yes if only you could understand them.
    You need the salve for your eyes.

    But if I quote or repeat the scripture, you get upset and say it is wrong. But that is how it was written. Thus, we can only conclude that you would also treat the author of these scriptures the same because they said it that way first, I merely repeat it.

    Reminds me of what Jesus said about what people would do and say to them. “What they did to me they will do to you” he said. And Jesus said that whatever they do to you, they do to me. How true his words were and are.

    Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.

    Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist–denying the Father and the Son.

    Nick, you teach that Jesus is a mere flesh thing and flesh is nothing. I say he emptied himself, came in the flesh, was born the messiah, grew up the messiah, and then saved people from their sins as expected.

    I think you need to look closely at the two scriptures I keep quoting. They are the truth. They are not my own words. I just believe them to be scripture and speak them. You would do well to listen to these words. Do you really want these to judge you on the last day?

    #833308
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    Yes no doubt you think you alone understand such matters.

    But do you?

    #833481
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Here are two things that are true, no matter how much you kick against the goads

    1. Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.
    2. Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist–denying the Father and the Son.
    #833484
    NickHassan
    Participant

    1. Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.

    Indeed the Messiah was born in Bethlehem. Herod knew this too

    2. Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist–denying the Father and the Son.

    Yes Jesus is the Christ the Son of the living God.

     

    So sad to see your stubbornness and your bitter hate manifested because of your lack of understanding.

    Surely if you teach you can learn.

     

    #833507
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    I’ll ask again then to see if you have changed your mind as you have done with other subjects.
    Hopefully you have changed your mind.

    1) Was Jesus born the messiah?

    Yes / No.

    #833527
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    Does scripture say that?

    #833640
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Yes it does, but you disagree that he was born the messiah it seems.

    That makes you wrong doesn’t it?

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