Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church

Balancing Rock Girraween

For many Christian denominations, the foundation of their faith is usually a version of the Trinity Doctrine in some form. But is this doctrine really the true foundation of the Church? Let’s take a look at the actual foundation that Jesus Christ built his Church on.

Matthew 16:13-18
13 Jesus came into the country of Caesarea Philippi. He asked His followers, “Who do people say that I, the Son of Man, am?”
14 They said, “Some say You are John the Baptist and some say Elijah and others say Jeremiah or one of the early preachers.”

15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
16 Simon Peter said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 Jesus said to him, “Simon, son of Jonah, you are happy because you did not learn this from man. My Father in heaven has shown you this.
18 “And I tell you that you are Peter. On this rock I will build My church. The powers of hell will not be able to have power over My church.

Read the above clearly. Jesus did not build his Church on Peter. He built it on the truth that Peter spoke concerning the true identity of Jesus Christ. And what was that truth? That Jesus is the Son of God and the Christ.

Peter did not say that Jesus was God or one member of a triune God, yet that is the foundation for many. So what is it that tries to fight against the true foundation? Is it not the Gates of Hell that is trying to prevail against this truth. But for what benefit is there to attack the true foundation of the Church, which is the Body of Christ?

Here is the thing. Roman Catholics believe that the foundation was Peter and this is where their line of Popes supposedly comes from. They also believe that the foundation of their faith is the Trinity Doctrine. Not only are they wrong, but their fruit over the centuries proves that this tree was not good.

So which is it? The Catholic faith or the true faith?

Many do not realise that they side with the Catholic faith. However, it is true that this faith and foundation cannot sustain eternally any work built upon her.

For they labour in vain those who build on another foundation.

Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 8:6: for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

He also wrote in Ephesians 4:5-6: one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

And Jesus said it so clearly in John 17:3: Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Are you willing to believe the truth about who God is and who Jesus is over any contrary tradition that was passed down to you?

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  • #812766
    terraricca
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    Nick

    no one can see spiritual things ,but only a few can understand it for unless you have the training of God you never will ;

    Pr 1:1 The proverbs of Solomon son of David, king of Israel:
    Pr 1:2 for attaining wisdom and discipline;
    for understanding words of insight;
    Pr 1:3 for acquiring a disciplined and prudent life,
    doing what is right and just and fair;
    Pr 1:4 for giving prudence to the simple,
    knowledge and discretion to the young—
    Pr 1:5 let the wise listen and add to their learning,
    and let the discerning get guidance—
    Pr 1:6 for understanding proverbs and parables,
    the sayings and riddles of the wise.

    Pr 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge,
    but fools despise wisdom and discipline.

    Pr 1:20 Wisdom calls aloud in the street,
    she raises her voice in the public squares;

    Pr 1:21 at the head of the noisy streets she cries out,
    in the gateways of the city she makes her speech:

    Pr 1:22 “How long will you simple ones love your simple ways?
    How long will mockers delight in mockery
    and fools hate knowledge?
    Pr 1:23 If you had responded to my rebuke,
    I would have poured out my heart to you
    and made my thoughts known to you.
    Pr 1:24 But since you rejected me when I called
    and no one gave heed when I stretched out my hand,
    Pr 1:25 since you ignored all my advice
    and would not accept my rebuke,

    Pr 1:26 I in turn will laugh at your disaster;
    I will mock when calamity overtakes you—
    Pr 1:27 when calamity overtakes you like a storm,
    when disaster sweeps over you like a whirlwind,

    when distress and trouble overwhelm you.

    Ecc 12:10 The Teacher(Jesus was even greater than Solomon) searched to find just the right words, and what he wrote was upright and true.
    Ecc 12:11 The words of the wise are like goads, their collected sayings like firmly embedded nails—given by one Shepherd.
    Ecc 12:12 Be warned, my son, of anything in addition to them.
    Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.
    Ecc 12:13 Now all has been heard;
    here is the conclusion of the matter:
    Fear God and keep his commandments,
    for this is the whole duty of man.
    Ecc 12:14 For God will bring every deed into judgment,
    including every hidden thing,
    whether it is good or evil.

    #812775
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    Yes fear God .

    Accept the testimony of John that the words of Jesus were given to him by the Father.

    #812781
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    Yes there are verses to found that those who are oversure of their foundation can attempt to use to bludgeon others with.

    Of course it is not the way of the lord.

     

    #812797
    GeneBalthrop
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    To all….”WHAT DOES GOD require of you, “O” MAN?, do what is RIGHT, love MERCY, walk humbly with YOUR GOD”.

    That is it all the rest is just chattering.

    #812810
    terraricca
    Participant

    Gene and of course you know all what is right ? and you know what type of love you have to perform in ?

    and of course you know how/ when/ and what kind of humility you should have ,

    so we can trow the scriptures away just keep you as a guide ? ?????????????????

    #812853
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Terraricca. ….MIC 6:8 HE has shewed you, O man, what is good, and what does the LORD require of you, but to do justly, and love mercy, and to walk humbly with your GOD?

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

    #812860
    terraricca
    Participant

    G
    yeah I think so

    #812944
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    May the light of the morning star shine in your heart.

    2 Peter 1

    #812946
    terraricca
    Participant

    N

    you have NO understanding that is the truth in you ;that I can see ;with the scriptures ,you are a charlatan ,and a apostat ,for you did not follow the apostle teachings ,and set your own copying what you think you can use for your own benefit ,

    #812949
    NickHassan
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    Hi t,

    So judgements and condemnations still flow from your mouth.

    The mouth shows what the heart is full of.

     

    #812959
    terraricca
    Participant

    Hi Nick

    no, you got me wrong i just see what you claim and what you claim is a lie for you cannot defend your view with the scriptures unless you are allowed to change them ,what I do not allow ,unless there is a logical distortion in the understanding of the what is said ,

    for this reason I call a horse a horse ,and a pig a pig a liar ,a liar ,a deceiver a deceiver and so on , Jesus also did this ,even his apostles ,

    #812963
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    So again you add liar to your list of judgements.

    Wow you must be perfect.

    #812968
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi t,

    So again you add liar to your list of judgements.

    Wow you must be perfect.

    Hi Nick,

    “Thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold,
    I will lift up mine hand to the Gentiles,
    and set up my standard to the people” (Isaiah 49:22)

    If he was “perfect” he would not be making accusatory remarks,
    but would instead be offering others salve to help them to see.

    “As I live, saith the LORD, thou shalt surely clothe thee with them all,
    as with an ornament, and bind them on thee, as a bride doeth.” (Isaiah 49:18)

    ____________
    God bless
    Ed J

    #812972
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    There are none so frightened of deception than those deeply enmired in it.

    #812991
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    NICK….True saying , and that is why they can not even learn, because fear of losing blocks their accepting of the truth or even concidering it, good insite brother. But we know “NOTHING” IS PRFECTED IN FEAR, BECAUSE FEAR HAS TORMENT, AND LOVE CAST OUT FEAR. GOD HAS NOT GIVEN US THE SPIRIT OF FEAR, BUT of POWER, AND LOVE, AND OF A SOUND MIND.

    I ALSO GRIEVE FOR PIERRE, AND HOPE GOD WILL REMOVE FEAR FROM HIM, BECAUSE THE FEARFULL AND UNBELIEVING WILL ALSO HAVE THEIR PART IN the lake which burn with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. MAY THAT NEVER HAPPEN TO HIM

    Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

    #812992
    terraricca
    Participant

    G
    I do not have fear in my soul , you guys make things up as you go

    #813002
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,

    The Church of Jesus Christ is built on the Spirit.

    Unless you have the Spirit of Christ you are none of his.

    #813016
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    you have any scriptures for that claim ?

    #813022
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    Mt 16 17-18

    Rom 8. 9

    #813034
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    this is what i would find in the scriptures you quote me ;The Church of Jesus Christ is built on the Spirit.
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    Mt 16:16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
    Mt 16:17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.
    Mt 16:18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

    Ro 8:9 You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.

    1Jn 2:3 We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands.
    1Jn 2:4 The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

    1Jn 2:6 Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.

    so the spirit that the scriptures is teaching is that we have to obey Jesus and walk as he walked so your claim is man made not to the full understanding of the truth

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