Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church

Balancing Rock Girraween

For many Christian denominations, the foundation of their faith is usually a version of the Trinity Doctrine in some form. But is this doctrine really the true foundation of the Church? Let’s take a look at the actual foundation that Jesus Christ built his Church on.

Matthew 16:13-18
13 Jesus came into the country of Caesarea Philippi. He asked His followers, “Who do people say that I, the Son of Man, am?”
14 They said, “Some say You are John the Baptist and some say Elijah and others say Jeremiah or one of the early preachers.”

15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
16 Simon Peter said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 Jesus said to him, “Simon, son of Jonah, you are happy because you did not learn this from man. My Father in heaven has shown you this.
18 “And I tell you that you are Peter. On this rock I will build My church. The powers of hell will not be able to have power over My church.

Read the above clearly. Jesus did not build his Church on Peter. He built it on the truth that Peter spoke concerning the true identity of Jesus Christ. And what was that truth? That Jesus is the Son of God and the Christ.

Peter did not say that Jesus was God or one member of a triune God, yet that is the foundation for many. So what is it that tries to fight against the true foundation? Is it not the Gates of Hell that is trying to prevail against this truth. But for what benefit is there to attack the true foundation of the Church, which is the Body of Christ?

Here is the thing. Roman Catholics believe that the foundation was Peter and this is where their line of Popes supposedly comes from. They also believe that the foundation of their faith is the Trinity Doctrine. Not only are they wrong, but their fruit over the centuries proves that this tree was not good.

So which is it? The Catholic faith or the true faith?

Many do not realise that they side with the Catholic faith. However, it is true that this faith and foundation cannot sustain eternally any work built upon her.

For they labour in vain those who build on another foundation.

Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 8:6: for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

He also wrote in Ephesians 4:5-6: one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

And Jesus said it so clearly in John 17:3: Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Are you willing to believe the truth about who God is and who Jesus is over any contrary tradition that was passed down to you?

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  • #806220
    NickHassan
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    Hi t8,

    We know Jesus is a man.

    Men are more than flesh.

     

    It is you who suggests that he is rather a supernatural being clad in flesh-am I right?

     

    #806223
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    It was after Peter spoke the words inspired by the Spirit that Jesus Christ announced that this was the rock the church was to be built on.

    The Spirit is essential for anyone who wants to join the kingdom and God will not refuse his children who seek.

    Lk 11.13

    Unless you have the Spirit of Christ you are none of his.

    #806224
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    The problem is you take a literal and worldly view of the spiritual truths.

    It leads to deception

    #806225
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    Sorry. You never said a man lived in heaven.

    So who did and how did it happen that Jesus was conceived and came in the flesh?

    #806260
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Kerwin…..you are right, form can mean the same as image because forms are all made by something and so is an image both can also be spoken of in spritual terms also. There may be some differences, as an image seems to imply being made by somekind of outside force, and put on something , like a coin showing the image of a king, and a image can be made in the minds of people and can be a untrue image , as the I MAGE PRODUCED BY FALSE RELIGION AS JESUS BEING A GOD. Like the LIE creating a false image about Jesus SPOKEN OF by PAUL IN 2Ths 2.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    #806264
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,

    Those of faith worship the Father in Spirit and in truth.

     

    #806268
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,

    Rom 1.25

    For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, Who is blessed forever.

    #806610
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    t8,

    Adam was created in the form of God as form means the same thing as image.

    Kerwin, so you exist in the form of God because you are like Adam? Did you empty yourself too? And of what did you empty yourself?

    So the LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground, breathed life into his …

    Adam was formed from the dust. Is that the form of God? Dust?

    #806611
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    So who did and how did it happen that Jesus was conceived and came in the flesh?

    Apology accepted. 🙂

    who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,7but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men.…

    #806612
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    The problem is you take a literal and worldly view of the spiritual truths.

    It leads to deception

    This means nothing. It has no context, proof, or examples.

    I could easily say the same about you as you have for me, but what is it worth.

    Hi Nick,

    The problem is you take a literal and worldly view of the spiritual truths.

    It leads to deception

    #806613
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    t8,

    Adam was created in the form of God as form means the same thing as image.

    So Jesus existed in the image of God and then emptied himself and came in the flesh?

    Did he empty himself of being an image?

    Flesh is a form and Jesus existed in the form of God which is not flesh. What form is God? God is a spirit. Then Jesus emptied himself, and he came in the form of dust. God formed Adam from the dust and Jesus came in that form.

    The Antichrist spirit denies that Jesus came in the flesh.

    Do you believe that Jesus came in the flesh? Or do you instead believe that Jesus is actually the flesh, thus he didn’t come in the flesh, because he is the flesh.

    #806614
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    Are these your excuses for not believing in the Spirit?

    Scriptures are not excuses Nick. I believe the scriptures and will let them take me where they lead.

    Also, I believe in the Spirit and being led by the Spirit. The Spirit says to me to believe the scriptures regardless of my own understanding. Align myself with scriptures and do not alter them to suit myself.

    You say I DON’T believe in the Spirit. You are in error Nick.

    Jesus said, before Abraham, I am.

    I believe what Jesus said of himself and do not feel at liberty to say that Jesus meant the opposite, that he wasn’t such as what many teach here.

    To be one of his sheep, you will hear his voice. You will not teach the opposite of what he said. Satan is his adversary and he is the Father of all who are adverse to God, his son, and the truth.

    #806619
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    The rock that the church was built on is not faith in a preexistent being who took on flesh.

    It is in a man who found favour with God and was given unity with God in the Spirit.

    #806620
    NickHassan
    Participant

     

    Hi T8,

    You said

    “The Antichrist spirit denies that Jesus came in the flesh”

    Why do you continue to misquote scripture?

    #806621
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    It is in a man who found favour with God and was given unity with God in the Spirit.

    Hi Nick,

    It sounds like you are describing King David and King David’s son rather than God and God’s son.

    Sorry Nick, but your interpretation of Scripture suggests that Psalms 49:7 is wrong, so I cannot accept it.

    “None of them(all ye inhabitants of the world) can by any means redeem his brother,
    nor give to God a ransom for him”
    (Psalms 49:7)

    ________________
    God Bless
    Ed J

    #806622
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    The rock that the church was built on is not faith in a preexistent being who took on flesh.

    Hi Nick,

    I believe “the spirit of Christ” was born into humanity to redeem mankind.

    “For this purpose the Son of God was manifested,
    that he might destroy the works of the devil.” (1 John 3:8)

    “To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself,
    not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed
    unto us “The Word” of reconciliation.” (2 Cor 5:19)

    Note: You can transpose where “The Word” is written: “The HolySpirit”
    (God hath given unto us “The HolySpirit” of reconciliation)

    ________________
    God Bless
    Ed J

    #806623
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    “For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord.” (Luke 2:11)

    “But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
    yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;
    whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.” (Micah 5:2)

    Micah 5:2 says two things:

    1. “The spirit of Christ’s” goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting
    (and)
    2. Out of “Bethlehem” “the spirit of Christ” would be born

    Therefore: I believe “the spirit of Christ” was born into humanity
    not baptized into it (as you apparently seem to believe)

    ________________
    God bless
    Ed J

    #806624
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    You really should not add your interpretations to what is written.

    Denying the redemptive abilities of God is rich.

     

    #806627
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    You do hear he voice of the Spirit.

    But then you wrongly attribute them to the human vessel.

     

    When will you really listen to Jesus Christ?

    #806630
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    You have seemingly joined the huge throng that believes in an anointed infant.

    You ignore the spiritual important event that occurred at the river Jordan.

    And you hope to follow him?    Sit with the confused Nicodemus.

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