Eternal life is to know the one true God and his son

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November 10, 2013 at 7:27 pm#777470
DavidL
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Good teaching in support of the Trinity…
November 10, 2013 at 7:29 pm#777471
DavidL
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Part two…
November 10, 2013 at 7:31 pm#777472
DavidL
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Part three..
November 10, 2013 at 7:33 pm#777473
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November 11, 2013 at 9:37 am#777474
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I quite like Chuck as a teacher. I think he does an outstanding job with other subjects. But he has been wrong before. He admitted for example that he has had to change his view on the last world empire. He use to teach that the EU or western leg was the final Beast, but has changed to the view to the eastern leg of the Roman Empire, where Islam is currently.

So don’t be surprised if one day he teaches against the Trinity Doctrine too. I mean, he is just teaching that which most teach and is following the mainstream. But one day, more will understand that God is calling us out of this Babylonian system, just as the day came for us to understand that salvation came from the grace of God and not by works or that the Roman Catholic Church was not the universal Body of Christ.

I am not sure what the trigger will be if indeed there will be one, but more and more people are waking up to the deception of this doctrine and are understanding that God is calling them out from this system of religion. But it will be hard for the older generation to change after decades of believing in a false doctrine.

Still the reality is that you post these videos here and know full well what Jesus said about the only true God. Thus because you have been given the light of Jesus words on who the one true God is, then it shows that you trust Chuck more than Jesus when it comes to the subject of who the only true God is.

Jesus said, “this is eternal life, that you may know the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom he has sent”. I am guessing that Chuck teaches in these videos that the one true God is made up of three persons, namely the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

I still side with Jesus here DavidL. Not even Chuck will sway me back to the Trinity Doctrine. Jesus wins every debate and all will be subject to him one day.
November 15, 2013 at 6:12 am#777475
DavidL
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You don’t fool me – if you sided with Jesus you’d believe the truth about Him….!
November 15, 2013 at 6:14 am#777476
DavidL
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Robbie Zacarias explains the Trinity…
November 15, 2013 at 6:23 am#777477
DavidL
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explaining the Trinity – ‘don’t try and put God in a box’….
November 15, 2013 at 6:34 am#777479
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We are not putting God in a box, we are letting scripture reveal God to us. I would say, don’t put God into a triangle.

November 15, 2013 at 6:38 am#777480
DavidL
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Illustration from C.S.Lewis…
November 15, 2013 at 6:40 am#777481
DavidL
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Very good diagram t8 – thanks..!
November 15, 2013 at 6:59 am#777482
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DavidL, the reason you post these videos is because you have no evidence of yourself that the Trinity Doctrine is scriptural. So you trust in these men to tell you who God is.

Jesus said: “this is eternal life, that you may know the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom he has sent.

In case you are confused by Jesus words, I will give you a few hints.

The only true God is the Father;
The only true God sent his son who is Jesus;
This truth is eternal life.

I believe this and teach this. And it is this that I am opposed. But it is not really me you oppose is it?
November 15, 2013 at 7:06 am#777483
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No problem DavidL. It is an idol. God made in an image devised by the human mind.

You might find this one interesting too.

November 15, 2013 at 11:28 am#777484
DavidL
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Not at all – the reason I post these videos is to show that not only is your teaching contrary to the clear revelation of Scripture, but also contrary to the teaching of all sound doctrine..
November 15, 2013 at 11:47 am#777485
DavidL
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Christian apologist Dr James White expresses his frustration over some Christians who have abandoned the doctrine of the Trinity…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqvgfsxedlc
November 15, 2013 at 11:56 am#777486
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Okay if that is true, then how do explain how Jesus was wrong when he said: “this is eternal life, that you may know the only true God and Jesus Christ whom he has sent”?

I know I won’t get a straight answer out of you, thus proof that I am right about why you post these videos because you have no proof of your own and no way to explain away this verse and hundreds of others. So you can try and convince yourself as well as others that by surrounding yourself with teachers who agree with you on this subject that it makes it right, which then implies that Jesus was wrong.

But the thorn in your side is that Jesus said, “eternal life was to know the only true God AND Jesus Christ whom he has sent”.

I believe Jesus Christ more than all these teachers put together. So even if you pointed me to 500 videos, then Jesus my Lord’s own words will still win out.
November 15, 2013 at 12:06 pm#777487
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I actually watched this one thinking it might have the best argument for the Trinity. Not one scripture and I am four-fifths of the way through. I truly understand why Muslims think Christianity is apostate. Much of it basically is. But Christ is the truth, not Christianity. Christ said, “this is eternal life, that you may know the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom he has sent”.

One sentence from Jesus is eternally more precious that this video and all the Trinity videos ever made because they are obviously at odds with one another for a start. Again, Jesus wins my heart and mind. Simplicity in Christ in who he is, is wonderful. He is the son of God, and the one that God made messiah, and Lord. Peter said it, Paul said it, Jesus said it, and the Father said it.

And the Father of lights is the one true God. He is the Father of all spirits. Even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. And he said that Jesus was his beloved son in whom he was well pleased.
November 15, 2013 at 12:14 pm#777488
DavidL
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no – completely boring sorry..!!
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The Trinity diagram gives light and understanding, but this one confusion and darkness…(like the rest of your anti-trinity belief)…
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I spose you’ll try and tell me that this is the sad origin of the Trinity doctrine…when really it is your study of this doctrine (outside of the Scriptures) that has given rise to your false teaching on the Trinity…
November 15, 2013 at 12:24 pm#777489
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The Trinity Doctrine is against what Peter, Paul, Jesus, and the Father taught and declared.

– Peter said, “you are the son of the living God and the messiah”.
– Paul said, “there is one God the Father, and one Lord, the Lord Jesus Christ.
– Jesus said, “this is eternal life, that you may know the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom he has sent”.
– The Father said, “this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased”.

The Trinity is Babylonian in origin. But we are told to come out of her.
November 15, 2013 at 12:33 pm#777490
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Yes I agree the latter is boring. But the mind of man is boring. He thinks he can draw God into a diagram. God is one, not trinue or a triangle.

Sure a triangle is a strong shape, but it is a created finite thing. And an idol is said to be that which is made by the hand of a man and is worshipped. But something made by a human hand has its origins in the mind of a man. And as the Spirit of God can only reveal God, so the spirit of Man reveals that which is of man. This diagram is clearly a created work of man. But you can love it if you want. Right-click and choose save. And you can even make it the background image of your computer and I won’t charge you a cent.
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