keras replied to the topic Views on the Gog Magog war in the forum Prophecy 10 years, 1 month ago
Wakeup -correction, due to the KJV saying ‘harmongog’ and the ‘valley of the passengers’, instead of the valley of Abarim, in Ezekiel 39:11, as good translations do, I got it wrong. BTW Abarim is now called; Wadi al Mujib and I have been there. The road winds down quite a way, bridges the dry stream bed, then climbs back up to the tableland.
Re Joel prophesies: he is NOT talking about a real army, “like an army, like soldiers, like horses, etc. A conventional war, even nuke, does not cause all the effects described: heavens shudder, devouring fire, worldwide darkness. Anyway Joel 1:15 says it is ‘from the Almighty’.
The war of G/M will be after many generations’. Yes, many generations after Ezekiel prophesied it.
Camilla, your posts make no useful contribution to the discussion.
Thank you Keras.
Let me go over Joel so you can see.
Joel 1:1 The word of the LORD that came to Joel the son of Pethuel.
Joel 1:2 Hear this, ye old men, and give ear, all ye inhabitants of the land. Hath this been in your days, or even in the days of your fathers?
NO THIS WAR HAS NEVER BEEN IN THEIR DAYS,FOR IT IS TERRIBLE. AND WILL BE NOT ANYMORE AFTER MANY YEARS. MEANING THAT AN OTHER ONE IS COMING AFTER MANY YEARS.(1000YRS).
Joel 1:3 Tell ye your children of it, and let your children tell their children, and their children another generation.
WE ARE OF THE LAST GENERATION.
Joel 1:4 That which the palmerworm hath left hath the locust eaten; and that which the locust hath left hath the cankerworm eaten; and that which the cankerworm hath left hath the caterpiller eaten.
FARMERS ARE EXPERIENCING MANY CROP DECEASES
TODAY.
Joel 1:5 Awake, ye drunkards, and weep; and howl, all ye drinkers of wine, because of the new wine; for it is cut off from your mouth.
ALL CHURCHES ARE DRUNKEN WITH NEW WINE.
Joel 1:6 For a nation is come up upon my land, strong, and without number, whose teeth are the teeth of a lion, and he hath the cheek teeth of a great lion.
THAT NATION IS THE GENTILE NATION .
STRONG AND POWERFUL.
Joel 1:7 He hath laid my vine waste, and barked my fig tree: he hath made it clean bare, and cast it away; the branches thereof are made white.
THEY HAVE STRIPPED THE GOOD FIG TREE,
MARRED, AND DESTROYED IT. THE LAND IS DESOLATE.
Joel 1:8 Lament like a virgin girded with sackcloth for the husband of her youth.
Joel 1:9 The meat offering and the drink offering is cut off from the house of the LORD; the priests, the LORD’S ministers, mourn.
THEY HAVE CLOSED DOWN ALL WORSHIP.
CHURCHES ARE NOT TO OPERATE AND THE PRIESTS ARE MOURNING,FOR THEIR PASTURE IS TAKEN AWAY.
Joel 1:10 The field is wasted, the land mourneth; for the corn is wasted: the new wine is dried up, the oil languisheth.
THE NEW WINE HAS GONE DRY;THE LIGHT IS NOT BURNING.
Joel 1:11 Be ye ashamed, O ye husbandmen; howl, O ye vinedressers, for the wheat and for the barley; because the harvest of the field is perished.
I BELIEVE THIS WOULD CAUSE FAMINE IN THE LAND.
Joel 1:12 The vine is dried up, and the fig tree languisheth; the pomegranate tree, the palm tree also, and the apple tree, even all the trees of the field, are withered: because joy is withered away from the sons of men.
INSTEAD OF JOY; SACKCLOTH.
Joel 1:13 Gird yourselves, and lament, ye priests: howl, ye ministers of the altar: come, lie all night in sackcloth, ye ministers of my God: for the meat offering and the drink offering is withholden from the house of your God.
CHURCH ATTENDANCES ARE NO MORE.
Joel 1:14 Sanctify ye a fast, call a solemn assembly, gather the elders and all the inhabitants of the land into the house of the LORD your God, and cry unto the LORD,
COME TOGETHER; FAST AND PRAY.
Joel 1:15 Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come.
THE DAY OF THE LORD;
THE DESTRUCTION FROM THE ALMIGHTY,SHALL COME.
Joel 1:16 Is not the meat cut off before our eyes, yea, joy and gladness from the house of our God?
Joel 1:17 The seed is rotten under their clods, the garners are laid desolate, the barns are broken down; for the corn is withered.
Joel 1:18 How do the beasts groan! the herds of cattle are perplexed, because they have no pasture; yea, the flocks of sheep are made desolate.
EVEN THE SHEEP FLOCK ARE DESOLATE,WITH NO PASTURE. THIS HAS A DOUBLE MEANING
SHEEP AS CATTLE AND SHEEP AS CHURCH FOLLOWERS.
Joel 1:19 O LORD, to thee will I cry: for the fire hath devoured the pastures of the wilderness, and the flame hath burned all the trees of the field.
THIS WORLD IS AS A WILDERNESS,AND THE TREES ARE BURNED DOWN. THE INHABITANTS ARE THE TREES.
Joel 1:20 The beasts of the field cry also unto thee: for the rivers of waters are dried up, and the fire hath devoured the pastures of the wilderness.
ALSO DOUBLE MEANING; WATERS; AS THE HOLY SPIRIT
AND ALSO AS LITTERAL RIVERS HAVE GONE DRY.
Joel 2:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
THE DAY OF THE LORD IS NIGH AT HAND.
Joel 2:2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
A GREAT AND STRONG PEOPLE,NEITHER SHALL BE ANYMORE FOR MANY GENERATIONS.
Joel 2:3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
THIS IS WHEN WAR PLANES PASS OVER A GREEN LAND
THE LAND BECOMES A DESOLATE WILDERNESS
Joel 2:4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
THESE ARE NOT HORSES OF FLESH,BUT OF IRON AND
STEEL.( MACHINES OF WAR).
Joel 2:5 Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.
NOTE: CHARIOTS ON TOP OF THE MOUNTAINS, (PLANES).(PEOPLE SET IN BATTLE) (NOISE OF A FLAME)
(FIGHTER JET NOICE).
Joel 2:6 Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.
Joel 2:7 They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks:
I SEE THEM AS THE SPECIAL FORCES.
Joel 2:8 Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.
WHEN THEY MARCH.THEY GO STRAIGHT;AND THE HAVE THEIR BULLET PROOF VESTS ON.
Joel 2:9 They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
SPECIAL FORCES.
Joel 2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining: NUCLEAR BOMBS WILL BE USED.
Joel 2:11 And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?
THAT WAR WILL BE CUT SHORT,BY THE APPEARING
IN THE CLOUDS.
Joel 2:12 Therefore also now, saith the LORD, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning:
Joel 2:13 And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your God: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil.
Joel 2:14 Who knoweth if he will return and repent, and leave a blessing behind him; even a meat offering and a drink offering unto the LORD your God?
Joel 2:15 Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly:
Joel 2:16 Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet.
SANCTIFY THE CONGREGATION,FOR IT IS NOT
SANCTIFIED.
Joel 2:17 Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say, Spare thy people, O LORD, and give not thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their God?
Joel 2:18 Then will the LORD be jealous for his land, and pity his people.
Joel 2:19 Yea, the LORD will answer and say unto his people, Behold, I will send you corn, and wine, and oil, and ye shall be satisfied therewith: and I will no more make you a reproach among the heathen:
Joel 2:20 But I will remove far off from you the northern army, and will drive him into a land barren and desolate, with his face toward the east sea, and his hinder part toward the utmost sea, and his stink shall come up, and his ill savour shall come up, because he hath done great things.
THE ARMIES WILL BE SLAUGHTERED AT MEGIDDO.
Joel 2:21 Fear not, O land; be glad and rejoice: for the LORD will do great things.
Joel 2:22 Be not afraid, ye beasts of the field: for the pastures of the wilderness do spring, for the tree beareth her fruit, the fig tree and the vine do yield their strength.
THIS WILL BE AFTER ARMAGEDDON.
Joel 2:23 Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month.
AFTER BABYLON IS DESTROYED.
Joel 2:24 And the floors shall be full of wheat, and the fats shall overflow with wine and oil.
Joel 2:25 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you.
THERE WILL BE NO MORE CROP DESEASES.
ALL WILL EAT WHAT THEY HAVE GROWN.
Joel 2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed.
Joel 2:27 And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.
Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
Joel 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
Joel 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
BEFORE THE DAY OF THE LORD.
Joel 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
ONLY THE CALLED REMNANT.
AND IN THAT DAY KNOWLEDGE SHALL COVER THE EARTH AS THE SEA COVER THE EARTH.
THIS ONLY MEANS, THAT IT IS NOT YET, AS FOR TODAY.
Shalom.
wakeup.