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Genesis 1:26

Does the word “us” in Genesis 1:26 mean that God consists of plural persons as the Trinity Doctrine teaches?

Genesis 1:26
Then God said, ‘Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness.

Genesis 3:22
Then the Lord God said, ‘Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil

The first verse uses the word Elohim as God, and the second verse uses the words Yahweh Elohim. The plurality of the word “us” is the Father and the Son. So when God says “Let us make man in our image” it is the Father talking to the Son. To put it another way, God talking to the Word (Logos). God created everything through his Word, so it makes sense that God would say “Let us make man in our image”.

Remember Revelation 3:12
Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God.
Never again will he leave it.
I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on him my new name.

John 20:17
Jesus said, Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them,
`I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.

We also need to remember that humans can be referred to as gods/theos/elohim at least according to Psalms 82:6
“I said, `You are “gods” (Elohim); you are all sons of the Most High.’Jesus confirms this truth as he quotes this very scripture to the Jews.

See John 10:34
Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, `I have said you are gods (theos)’

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  • April 6, 2015 at 8:21 am#792922
    DavidL
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    The truth is in scripture that is where you will find it. Do not trust in man, trust in the one who inspired scripture.

    If you had simply taken your own advice, I would not be here contending against you..

    April 6, 2015 at 8:28 am#792925
    NickHassan
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    Hi davidl,

    He offers scripture but you contend against him for the sake of what is of man.

    April 6, 2015 at 1:37 pm#792982
    Proclaimer
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    It is true what you say Nick.

    April 6, 2015 at 1:38 pm#792983
    Proclaimer
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    If you had simply taken your own advice, I would not be here contending against you..

    Yet you attack me for these true scriptures. You must be asleep to not see it.

    Time to wake up as time is also part of God’s grace. It will be retracted at some point if you continue to ignore these central truths.

    Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

    yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

    Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.

    It is one thing to ignore these central truths, but quite another to persecute those who teach it. Why do you persecute Yeshua?

    April 6, 2015 at 1:56 pm#792990
    kerwin
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    t8,

    If a Trinitarian is unwilling to see it when Jesus calls states he has the same God and Father as his brothers I doubt Trinitarian will see any better when you quote any other passage. I know Trinitarians refuse to recognize their teaching is blaspheme because it God of being tempted by evil.

    April 7, 2015 at 5:58 am#793035
    DavidL
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    Yet you attack me for these true scriptures. You must be asleep

     

    Listen to the testimony of Scripture, instead of cherry-picking verses to suit your false doctrine..!

    “I and the Father are ONE.”

    “If you have seen Me you have seen the Father.”

    “The Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

     

    Jesus and the Father are united together as one – you cannot have One without the Other…

    The very verses you use to refute this, actually CONFIRM it…!!

    “This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.”

    “That they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.”

     

    So who is asleep..?

     

    Listen to the words of Jesus again – “I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE.”

     

    April 7, 2015 at 6:32 am#793044
    NickHassan
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    Hi davidl,

    One in the Spirit.

    God is Spirit.

    “Now the Lord is the Spirit”

    April 7, 2015 at 6:33 am#793045
    DavidL
    Participant

    yes the Spirit too – very good..!

    April 7, 2015 at 8:43 am#793065
    Proclaimer
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    “I and the Father are ONE.”

    I pray that they will all be one, just as you and I are one—as you are in me, Father, and I am in you. And may they be in us so that the world will believe you sent me.

    Jesus specifically prayed that we too could partake in that oneness too.

    “If you have seen Me you have seen the Father.”

    He is the image of the invisible God.

    Notice he is not that God, but looks like that God, (because God is his Father).

    “The Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

    Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”‘?

    Both John 1:1 and this verse have the word ‘theos’ without the definite article. The verse is obviously not saying that they were theos/God.

    In order to divide the Word of God correctly, you need to delve into the original language sometimes, always read context, and compare scriptures with other instances of the same word and sentence construction.

    If you start with a predefined belief, you end with it because of bias. Then all scripture is twisted toward your own way of thinking. For me it matters not what God is in the sense that I am not here to define God by my own terms, rather I let scripture tell me who God is and of course knowing him is even more important.

     

    April 8, 2015 at 8:39 am#793203
    DavidL
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    t8

    If you start with a predefined belief, you end with it because of bias. Then all scripture is twisted toward your own way of thinking.

    you understand this about others – but what you fail to realize is the predefined belief in your own teaching…!!!!

    all your Scriptures are twisted towards your anti-trinity bias…there is a huge anti-trinity ‘log’ stuck in your vision, but all-the-while you keep on saying, ‘let me get that trinity speck out of YOUR thinking..’ !!!!

    Now, you’re seeing specks in everyone that aren’t even there…!!!!

    I give you Scripture – but all you see is Catholic dogma….!!!!

    April 8, 2015 at 8:41 am#793204
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    There is no trinity.

    Scripture never mentions one.

    How can you have a bias against something that does not exist??

    April 8, 2015 at 8:51 am#793207
    DavidL
    Participant

    Hi nickhassan

    If there is no trinity

    and Scripture never mentions one

    is it wrong then to be baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit ?

    April 8, 2015 at 8:52 am#793208
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    Why would you?

    Acts demonstrates it is not the right way

    And Paul showed the name you are baptised in matters[acts 19]

    April 8, 2015 at 8:55 am#793210
    DavidL
    Participant

    So is it wrong..?

    April 8, 2015 at 8:59 am#793212
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    Misguided and useless.

     

    “Repent and let each of you be baptised  in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins..”

    April 8, 2015 at 9:12 am#793214
    DavidL
    Participant

    so…aren’t you also interpreting Scripture according to your own predefined belief (rather than letting Scripture confirm Scripture)..?

     

    Scripture says, “..baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”

    it also says, “..simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.”

    Does one annul the other ?

    ..or have you missed the reality of Jesus because of your own anti-trinity bias..?

     

    If the fullness of the Deity (or Godhead) dwells in Jesus Christ – then to be baptized in the name of Jesus IS really the same as being baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit…In Christ we receive the Father and the Spirit also…!!

    April 8, 2015 at 9:25 am#793216
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Davidl,

    You could try to make scripture argue against itself.

    Obedience is more helpful

    April 8, 2015 at 9:26 am#793217
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    If God dwells IN Jesus Christ why would you want to make him God??

    April 8, 2015 at 9:27 am#793218
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    God, the Father, is in heaven.

    You can know Him through His Spirit on earth

    April 8, 2015 at 9:29 am#793220
    DavidL
    Participant

    If God dwells in Jesus Christ why would it be wrong to call Him God, like Thomas did..?

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