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Genesis 1:26

Does the word “us” in Genesis 1:26 mean that God consists of plural persons as the Trinity Doctrine teaches?

Genesis 1:26
Then God said, ‘Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness.

Genesis 3:22
Then the Lord God said, ‘Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil

The first verse uses the word Elohim as God, and the second verse uses the words Yahweh Elohim. The plurality of the word “us” is the Father and the Son. So when God says “Let us make man in our image” it is the Father talking to the Son. To put it another way, God talking to the Word (Logos). God created everything through his Word, so it makes sense that God would say “Let us make man in our image”.

Remember Revelation 3:12
Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God.
Never again will he leave it.
I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on him my new name.

John 20:17
Jesus said, Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them,
`I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.

We also need to remember that humans can be referred to as gods/theos/elohim at least according to Psalms 82:6
“I said, `You are “gods” (Elohim); you are all sons of the Most High.’Jesus confirms this truth as he quotes this very scripture to the Jews.

See John 10:34
Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, `I have said you are gods (theos)’

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  • March 29, 2015 at 7:27 pm#792002
    DavidL
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    “And God said, ‘Let us make man in our image'”

     

    I guess it’s obvious that you have to try and somehow deny the reality of this verse because it so clearly refers to the plurality of God..

    Yet to give it the explanation you give is to acknowledge Jesus is God.. perfectly confirming John 1:1 (which you deny)

    Confusion…!

     

    March 29, 2015 at 8:06 pm#792004
    NickHassan
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    Hi davidl,

    Very weak.

    Of course it is the Spirit that creates -ps 104.jb 33.4

    That Spirit fills the heavenly sons. jb 38.7

     

    Would you divide God from His Spirit?ps 139.7

    March 29, 2015 at 10:04 pm#792006
    kerwin
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    DavidL,

    Even Trinitarians doubt that those words in Genesis support their view.

    The God uses the plural pronoun in Genesis 3:22 so state humanity has “become like one of us” so that does that mean man is God.

    In that verse you most likely believe God is talking about the angels and not him even though he say “one of us”.

    March 30, 2015 at 2:46 am#792007
    sonofGod
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    David,

    Plurality of God? or the many magnificent facets of God?

    March 30, 2015 at 2:49 am#792008
    sonofGod
    Participant

    Kerwin, that is another use of the figure of speech heterosis of number. Likewise a spectator rooting for their favorite team could say the same thing and people would understand what he said. Like you said, the spectator was not on the field, but felt (emotionally, but not actually) part of the team.

    March 30, 2015 at 3:28 am#792010
    sonofGod
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    Of course, the problem with both the benchwarmer and spectator example is that neither actually did the work.

    God was neither a spectator nor a bench warmer, He did the creating, the speaking, the dividing, the making, the setting, etc.

    God’s work until he formed and made and created man was good, but His “crowning” achievement was man and woman. With man, His wisdom in design and function (with the exception of authoring His word, Psalm 138:2) was best exemplified.

    March 30, 2015 at 6:30 am#792013
    kerwin
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    sonOfGod,

    Of course, the problem with both the benchwarmer and spectator example is that neither actually did the work.

    God was neither a spectator nor a bench warmer, He did the creating, the speaking, the dividing, the making, the setting, etc.

    God’s work until he formed and made and created man was good, but His “crowning” achievement was man and woman. With man, His wisdom in design and function (with the exception of authoring His word, Psalm 138:2) was best exemplified.

    It can only be a collective pronoun if God considered the angels as part of his team as he, himself did the work of creation.

    Supporting evidence that he does look at angels as part of the team though he did the actual work is the words “become like one of us” in Genesis 3:22. It seems absurd he is stating we are like Jehovah any more than we were already like him from the nature of our creation.

    March 30, 2015 at 7:23 am#792020
    NickHassan
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    Hi davidl,

    If God spoke and did the works through Jesus of Nazareth tell us again why this made a man a god.

    March 31, 2015 at 8:23 am#792103
    DavidL
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    I’ve answered your questions Nick..

    I don’t think you are interested in truth – because it challenges your own theology.

    Receive Jesus..that is the starting point, and the conclusion.

     

     

    March 31, 2015 at 9:10 am#792110
    NickHassan
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    Hi Davidl,

    Receive Jesus?

    Which salvation theology is this?

    Why would you separate him from your trinity?

    March 31, 2015 at 9:16 am#792114
    NickHassan
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    Hi davidl,

    I am not interested in your foolish trinity because it does not come from the Word of God.

    Why do you hide behind catholic theologians?

    March 31, 2015 at 9:23 am#792116
    NickHassan
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    Hi davidl,

    If the way you have walked led you to promote the teachings of men why would you think you are on the right path?

    March 31, 2015 at 9:36 am#792118
    DavidL
    Participant

    Why would you separate him from your trinity?

    Because –  in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, and in Him you have been made complete..

    Receive Jesus?

    Which salvation theology is this?

    Pure unadulterated Scripture – as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God..

    I am not interested in your foolish trinity because it does not come from the Word of God.

    I show you God’s Word – you give me useless arguments..

    Why do you hide behind catholic theologians?

    so.. whose really hiding..??

    ..whose really promoting the teachings of men…???

    March 31, 2015 at 10:02 am#792123
    NickHassan
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    Hi davidl,

    Certainly God indwelled him

    But that does not make him any sort of god.

     

    If you are a follower then what Paul said in Phil would apply to you too

    “God is at work in you to will and to do”

     

    Those who received him repented and were baptised in the name of Jesus, not a trinity.

    If you offer a trinity god that is not in the bible how does that affect your standing with the Father?

     

     

     

    March 31, 2015 at 12:41 pm#792147
    DavidL
    Participant

    Those who received him repented and were baptised

    Receive Jesus?

    Which salvation theology is this?

    SEE YOUR OWN CONFUSION..?!

    March 31, 2015 at 12:44 pm#792149
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    Not receive a trinity?

    Your heart and mind are divided.

    March 31, 2015 at 12:48 pm#792152
    NickHassan
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    Hi davidl,

    Carnal logic applied to scripture leads men into darkness.

    Scripture is spiritual.

    March 31, 2015 at 1:21 pm#792158
    DavidL
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    Carnal logic applied to scripture leads men into darkness.

    Scripture is spiritual.

    Yes, you must be born again Nick…

    This site promotes exactly what you have described.

    March 31, 2015 at 1:48 pm#792159
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    Indeed.

    Of water in the name of Jesus Christ and of the Spirit.

    Then let the Spirit lead.

    Of course the Spirit does not lead to the teachings of men, like trinity.

    April 4, 2015 at 10:42 pm#792721
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    The fastest growing religion, Islam, teaches that God has not a son. Thus, they deny the Father and the Son making that religion antichrist. The Roman Catholic Church teaches that Jesus is God, thus they subtly deny the Father and the Son because one is meant to be God and the other the Son of God. If the Son of God is God, then you deny the Son of God.

    This world has enough false doctrine for every man, woman, and child. Do not be deceived and follow the teachings of men and the mainstream. The truth is in scripture that is where you will find it. Do not trust in man, trust in the one who inspired scripture.

    Be not of the world @DavidL. Many are those who are ensnared in false religion who are zealous for their religion. Zeal doesn’t save you, but zeal for the truth may well lead you there.

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