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  • March 27, 2015 at 5:14 pm#791807
    NickHassan
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    Hi,

    The Spirit of God, the living water, will infuse all of the new creation.

    March 30, 2015 at 10:56 am#792022
    Ed J
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    Hi T8,

    Nice pic, did you take it?

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    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
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    April 1, 2015 at 10:14 pm#792372
    Proclaimer
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    Yes. One of my hobbies is photography. Another is travel. I have decided to start adding the images into this site accompanied with a Bible verse.

    My photos are on two sites currently:

    http://www.smartcountries.com/

    http://www.virtualoceania.com/

    November 20, 2015 at 7:40 pm#805052
    NickHassan
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    Hi,

    Nobody doubts that these words belong to God and not Isaiah.

    Why do people not believe him when Jesus says his words are from God?

    December 2, 2015 at 1:18 pm#805470
    Proclaimer
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    Who doesn’t believe that Jesus words are from God?

    He said himself that he only speaks that which he hears the Father speak.

    Thus Jesus speaks, but only that which is of God.

    December 2, 2015 at 3:38 pm#805493
    Ed J
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    (1)He said himself that he only speaks that which he hears the Father speak.

    (2)Thus Jesus speaks, but only that which is of God.

    Hi T8,

    1) I don’t mean to sound overly ‘picky’, but Jesus didn’t say that about himself; he instead
    said that about God’s HolySpirit (him speaking through us). (ref. John 16:13, Matt.10:20)

    2) Jesus said he speaks (to us) what the father told him to speak. (ref. John 12:50)

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    December 2, 2015 at 3:44 pm#805497
    NickHassan
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    Hi t8,

    Then why do you take the words he speaks and imagine they say he preexisted?

    December 4, 2015 at 12:07 pm#805567
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    What I imagine is sourced here. You cannot imagine this?

    The Jesus I serve is described below. If you have a problem with that Jesus, then yes you have a problem.

    Jude 1:25
    to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.

    John 8:58
    “I tell you the truth,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”

    Revelation 22:16
    “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”

    Hebrews 1:1-2
    1 In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways,
    2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.

    Philippians 2:6-8
    6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
    7 but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.
    8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death even death on a cross!

    John 3:12-15
    12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?
    13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven, the Son of Man.

    Colossians 1:15-16
    15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.

     

     

    December 4, 2015 at 12:27 pm#805568
    kerwin
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    @t8,

    Jude 25Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    25 to the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

    There seems to be a manuscript difference and different translation have have different orders of words so this is not a great proof passage.

    December 4, 2015 at 12:33 pm#805569
    kerwin
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    @t8,

    You are free to interpret Jesus according to the interpretation of unbelievers in the previous verse or you can consider that Abraham was made a father of many nations and Jesus is first among such fathers for through humans are born of the Spirit. His audience are Jews who acknowledge Abraham was made a father of many nation.

    December 4, 2015 at 1:12 pm#805571
    NickHassan
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    Hi t8,

    So you say the words were not from the Spirit but the man?

    You are double minded it seems.

    December 4, 2015 at 1:25 pm#805576
    NickHassan
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    Hi t8,

    You say that the Spirit spoke through Jesus Christ.

     

    But not these words or those words but the odd thing here and there.

    Which words did the Spirit say?

     

     

     

    December 4, 2015 at 8:28 pm#805610
    NickHassan
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    Hi t8,

    I am bewildered that you would write what you have above

    but refuse to acknowledge what he said that was from God??

    December 4, 2015 at 8:30 pm#805611
    NickHassan
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    Hi t8,

    The only possibility I can think of is that you think God inspired his words

    but they were from him?

    December 4, 2015 at 8:31 pm#805612
    NickHassan
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    Hi t8,

    If that is the case is that what happened with the prophets or not?

    December 4, 2015 at 9:17 pm#805613
    NickHassan
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    Hi t8,

    Isaiah obviously spoke for God.

    But you think the relationship between Jesus and the Father was much less direct?

    December 4, 2015 at 10:14 pm#805614
    NickHassan
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    Hi t8,

    But that is not what Jesus Christ said.

    He claimed a very direct relationship with the Spirit.

    December 7, 2015 at 12:32 pm#805751
    Proclaimer
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    There seems to be a manuscript difference and different translation have have different orders of words so this is not a great proof passage.

    So you choose the AKJV because that agrees with your theoology and ignore all other translations and research?

    Jude 1:25
    to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.

    Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

    25. To the only … God our Saviour — The oldest manuscripts add, “through Jesus Christ our Lord.” The transcribers, fancying that “Saviour” applied to Christ alone, omitted the words. The sense is, To the only God (the Father) who is our Saviour through (that is, by the mediation of) Jesus Christ our Lord.

    power—authority: legitimate power. The oldest manuscripts and Vulgate, after “power,” have “before all the age,” that is, before all time as to the past: “and now,” as to the present; “and to all the ages,” that is, for ever, as to the time to come.

     

    December 7, 2015 at 12:36 pm#805752
    Proclaimer
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    Hi t8,

    So you say the words were not from the Spirit but the man?

    You are double minded it seems.

    Not double minded Nick, rather you have misconstrued what I said. You should have thought the latter yourself and read my post again before saying I was double minded.

    Jesus certainly spoke, but he chose to speak what the Father speaks. He was not a robot shell that the Father took control of with a PS3 controller.

    No, Jesus submitted himself to God and so should we. Like us, Jesus had the ability to do his own will if he desired, but he always without exception submitted/aligned his will with the Fathers.

    December 7, 2015 at 12:57 pm#805759
    NickHassan
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    Hi t8,

    So he was a prophet unlike to Isaiah who was not a mouthpiece for God but he was sometimes inspired in his speech?

    No not so.

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