Where to fellowship if you don’t believe in the Trinity

Q: What Church should I fellowship at if I do not believe in the Trinity Doctrine?

A: If you understand that the Trinity Doctrine is false, it then seems unfortunate that most denomination’s are based on the Trinity Doctrine leaving you with the question: “Where can I fellowship”. And if you feel limited in where to fellowship because of this dilemma, then you are actually fortunate because you are going to understand another important truth. That is, Jesus never intended to have his Church built in this manner, with multiple denominations and their divisions we see today. So in what manner is the Church meant to be and how are we going to be one? Is it easier for all to become Roman Catholics and thus one Church? Well scripture is clear on this subject and how the Church is meant to be.

First understand that the Church is the Body of Christ. So rather than looking for a denomination somewhere that teaches that there is one God the Father and one Lord the Lord Jesus Christ, you just need to remain as you are because if you are part of the Body of Christ, then you are already part of the Church.

1 Corinthians 12:12
12 Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.

Romans 12:3-5
4 Just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, 5 so in Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.

Ephesians 1:22-23
22 And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, 23 which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.

Ephesians 2:19-22
19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God’s people and members of God’s household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.

Colossians 3:14-16
14 And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity. 15 Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, since as members of one body you were called to peace.

So what about these Churches in scripture? There is more than one Church mentioned such as the Church in Pergamom, or the Church in Aquila and Prisca’s house. If you look closely, what these churches are is the Body of Christ within a certain location, be that a city, house, or whatever. They are not denominations with their own creeds and own separate leadership as we see today.

So for you, this means that you can fellowship with other believers anywhere at anytime. This is the way it is meant to be because those that are led by the Spirit are not predictable (meet every Sunday/pray every Wed) but are like the wind, that you can never fully predict. So it is really up to you to connect with Believers and what do I mean by Believers? Well they are those you were probably fellowshipping with before and others.

But there is one difference now. Some of your fellows will reject your faith for denying the Trinity Doctrine and of those you only need to pray for them. Others may become convinced of the truth that you have sought out, such are those who you can fellowship with because they are willing to hear the truth and to go from glory to glory and toward being a Church without spot and blemish. If everyone you know rejects you, then make disciples and fellowship with them. You will be in the same position as the early disciples who had to convert unbelievers into believers first.

This all might sound a bit scary, but know this, it is an exciting journey, but not without its persecutions. Some of this persecution will come from those you know or within institutions that you know, but this is what Christ endured when he was tested by the Pharisees. You also need to aware that the enemy becomes angry with those who do not willingly become part of his system, which by the way is what the world is. He will try and recruit you back into Babylon so to speak, but we know that God’s people need to come out of her. God judged the original Babylon, not because of its trade and wealth, but because of her gods and idols. The Trinity goes back to those days as does the Queen of Heaven and many so-called Christian holidays are based on the Babylonian religion too.

Jesus is coming back for a bride without spot and blemish. Congratulations if you are taking this one step closer to that. If people ask you what Church you go to, you could answer them, “are you a follower of Paul, Apollos, or Christ”, because that is the same question that they are asking you. See 1 Corinthians 1:12:

12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”;another, “I follow Cephas[a]”; still another, “I follow Christ.”
13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?

Further, if you understand that the Church is the Body, then you should also understand that setting up a new denomination to cater for truth that is not being taught in other denominations is just perpetuating this faulty system of division that ends enslaving believers. Rather it is better to be one body who embraces the truth that Jesus imparts to us from his God and our God. Realise that you do not go to Church, but that you are part of the Church no matter where you are.

Blessing in God and Jesus Christ.

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  • #799345
    NickHassan
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    Hi davidl,

    Do you have any support scriptures for what you quote?

    2Cor 13.1

    #799354
    kerwin
    Participant

    DavidL,

    “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”

    These are the words of Jesus Christ whom you say you follow…

    His Words are life..

    but yours are poison.

    Then the Eleven went and taught all nations and immersed them in the name of Jesus Christ.

    #799652
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    @DavidL
    You said:

    “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
    These are the words of Jesus Christ whom you say you follow…
    His Words are life..
    but yours are poison.

    The Catholics have had a very strong influence in your life DavidL.

    Encyclopedia Britannia, the 11th edition vol 3, page 365-366
    “The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son and Holy Ghost by the Catholic church in the second century.

    Encyclopedia Britannia, vol 3, page 82
    “Everywhere in the oldest sources it states that baptism took place in the name of Jesus Christ.”

    Canney Encyclopedia of Religion, page 53
    The early church baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus until the second century.

    Hastings Encyclopedia of Religion, Volume2
    Christian baptism was administered using the words, “in the name of Jesus”. page 377.

    The use of the trinitarian formula of any sort was not suggested in the early Church’s history.page 378

    “Go ye therefore and teach all nations, in my name” … the latter form being the more frequent.page 380.

    Baptism was always in the name of Jesus until time of Justin Martyr, when the triune formula was used. page 389.

    Catholic Encyclopedia, vol 2, page 377,
    Catholics acknowledge that baptism in Jesus’ name was changed by the Catholic church.

    Schaff-Herzog Religious Encyclopedia, Volume 1, page 435
    The New Testament knows only the baptism in the name of Jesus.

    Hastings Dictionary of Bible, page 88
    It must be acknowledged that the three fold name of Matthew 28:19 does not appear to have been used by the primitive church, but rather in the name of Jesus, Jesus Christ, or Lord Jesus.

    The Canney Encyclopedia of Religion, page 53 states,
    The early Church always baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus until the development of the trinity doctrine in the 2nd Century.

    Source: https://heavennet.net/writings/supporting-the-trinity-doctrine/matthew-28_19/

    #799654
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    the anti-trinity teachings on this site are the doctrines of men..
    Revelation reveals the Deity of Jesus Christ.

    What about the anti-marshmallow man teachings?

    Or is it that we teach that there is one God the Father and one Lord the Lord Jesus Christ. Does it annoy you that we teach that the one true God sent his son into the world? Do you get riled when we say that there is one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

    If that is anti-Trinity teaching then thank you for clearing that up.

    But we don’t go around saying here is a teaching on the anti-trinity. Rather we say here is a teaching from scripture about God.

    #799793
    DavidL
    Participant

    In denying the trinity you deny the true Deity of Jesus Christ.. who, as He Himself declared, the Spirit testifies, and the whole of Scripture confirms – is One with God.

    #799801
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    For us there is one God and one Lord.

    How many deities do you have?

    #799840
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    In denying the trinity you deny the true Deity of Jesus Christ.. who, as He Himself declared, the Spirit testifies, and the whole of Scripture confirms – is One with God.

    Even this statement of your’s is untrue.

    Did you not read that we can participate in divine nature and that Jesus existed in the form of God.

    Again you confuse nature and identity.

    There is one Spirit right, but there are many spirits who are angels right. There is one who is the Devil, yet Judas was called ‘devil’.

    Nature vs identity. When you understand that, you will be able to make sensible decisions about what is written about God and his son. If there is no difference to you, then you will continue to make the same errors and be helpful to nobody.

    #799866
    DavidL
    Participant

    Nature vs identity. When you understand that, you will be able to make sensible decisions about what is written about God and his son.

    When you learn to trust God for understanding then you will not only make sensible decisions – but you will begin to grasp spiritual truth.

    #799867
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi davidl,

    But the Spirit reminds us of the words of Jesus Christ.

    He never said he was a god nor that he was part of a divine committee.

    #799875
    kerwin
    Participant

    DavidL,

    I trust God for understanding as all human beings are liars. The greatest obstacle I have is that I too am a liar according to the flesh nature. God word does not agree with what my flesh nature wants to hear. It appeals to that part that hungers and thirsts to be like him in true righteousness and holiness. That part reject the claim that Jesus is God because God cannot be tempted by evil and Jesus Christ was fully tempted as is common to humanity.

    Have you not read where Jesus stated ” be of good cheer; I have overcome the world” and there is no reason we should be of good cheer because God who can do anything that is not evil overcame the world. Instead we are cheered by the fact that a human being has overcome the world and so pioneered the trail that we might follow.

    #799881
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    Was your flesh nature not part of the creation God said was very good?

    #799888
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    My flesh nature is my godless nature and perhaps it was part of the human creation as it serves the purpose of testing our hearts. I know that mankind did not eat of the fruits of the flesh nature until Eve first fell to the temptation of the serpent.

    #799890
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    They ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

    We should not make assumptions or add to what is written.

     

    FRUITS OF THE FLESH NATURE?

    You mean followed lusts?

     

    #799898
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    In Galatians they are called works of the flesh but Jesus said you will know them by their fruit.

    #799900
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    It is what is in the flesh that leads men away from God.

    Men love darkness and flee the light

    #799901
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    I merely claimed humanity did not sin until Eve ate of the fruit. Do you disagree with that statement?

    #799902
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    I agree, the lusts and desires of human nature lead us away from God.

    #799906
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    Was this lustful human nature given to Adam?

    Creation was very good.

     

    Lusts are of the evil one

    #799907
    NickHassan
    Participant

    hi KW,

    Yes I disagree.

    Rebellion, disrespect of God and the decision to disobey preceded the eating of the fruit of the tree.

    #799910
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    I do not know if humanity was created with the flesh nature or not but I do know the first rebellion by humanity was when Eve chose to eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. I do not know if her disobedience was that of a child who is not morally responsible and yet disobeys their parents or that of an adult who is morally responsible. If the earlier then it is possible the flesh nature did not exist until humanity ate of the tree.

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