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[yes2truth]

'If I glorify myself my glory is nothing; it is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say
'He is our God' ”

He only said these words because He had lowered Himself to become a man. He had given up His equality with God to become a man.

I'm afraid you are nothing but a blaspheming Judaiser and I am now dusting off my shoes 'Woe to you Chorazin'

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Your analogies don't stack up and you are still ignoring the FACT that Elohim is plural. I will repeat it for you again. The singular of Elohim is Eloah. If God is one then Eloah would have been used, but it was was not.

THEY said let US make man in OUR image. Genesis 1:26 They were two who have always existed and The Holy Spirit is their essence and their power, but the Holy Spirit is not a personage that makes up a trinity

So then by your reasoning The Jews are saved as are Islamics for they all believe in your singular god.

I will tell you straight, that I do not worship the same God as the Jews for their god is the god of this world which is your god too.

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Jesus Christ is The Word who was God who became flesh.

Jesus Christ is The Word
Jesus Christ is The Way
Jesus Christ is The Light – The light that shone in the darkness – Genesis 1:3 And God (ELOHIM) said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Jesus Christ is The I am
Jesus Christ is The Life and Resurrection
Jesus Christ is Mighty God – Isaiah 9:6
He was worshipped by the angels at The Father's instructions Heb 1:6 Only God is to be worshipped.

Your doctrine is totally flawed and your teaching on the prodigal son utter nonesense.

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I have given you Deut 6:4 which in your obtuseness or spiritual blindness or both you continue to ignore. You also ignored the 'I am's'

If God is one then the Jews are saved for through your doctrine, youand them worship the same god. I have proven through scripture that God is a plurality not a singular.

If He was created then He just becomes another part of the creation and no better than us.

Outer darkness awaits you unless you repent

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It is you who is anti-Christ Mr Hassan. You are just a cloked Judaiser just like the JW's

Jesus Christ is the 'I am' the same 'I am' that spoke to Moses. The same who stood outside Abraham's tent and whom Abraham bowed down to. The same who was Melchisedec. The same who hovered over the waters and created the earth.

Repent before it is too late for you.

I will repeat Deut 6:4 for you

Hear O Israel the Lord (Eternal & self existent) our God (Elohim = Plural and that means more than one) is one (united and number one) Lord.

So we have a Godhead that is more than one personage who are united. They are two who are united.

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Yes faith does prove belief because otherwise it is as you said even the demons believe.

Faith is not belief, but faith in works is an expression of that belief.

Faith is proven by works but works have nothing to do with salvation, for that is a free gift.

Now back to the Jews and because you seem to be slow in learning I'll spell it out for you.

The Jews believe in one god and that god is the devil – Jesus told them so in John 8 and that goes for anyone who believes in a solitary god including you.

Hear O Israel the Lord (Eternal & self existent) our God (Elohim = Plural and that means more than one) is one (united and number one) Lord.

So we have a Godhead that is more than one personage who are united.

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Belief is all that is required for salvation provided you show or prove your belief through faith.

So I will rephrase my point: Jews and Islamists who believe and show faith must be saved according to your doctrine of a solitary god.

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If there is only one God then the Jews and Islamists are saved!

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I think you are saying in a human reasoned sort of way that Jesus is not God made flesh and that you are also saying there is only one God. Am I correct?

By human reasoning I mean you are not accepting the fact that they were always two as explained by Deut 6:4 i.e. Jesus God with Father God. Melchisedec was Our Lord in the flesh and He also appeared in the flesh to Abraham before destroying Sodom

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

He was worshipped by the angels – only God can be worshipped.

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I have not said they are one I said they are united or in unity, totally like minded and yet individual but they are number one for there is none above them. The Scriptures have spoken not me for I only boast in The Lord and The Truth.

I am not into starting the trinity lie Rome has already done that, but I not into the monotheistic lie either.

[yes2truth]

Deut 6:4 Hear O Israel the Lord (Eternal and self existent) our God (Elohim = Plural) is one (united and number one or none above) Lord.

The word used is Elohim the plural of Eloah. If God is one then the word Eloah would have been used, but it is not.

The Godhead is a duality and always has been. The Holy Spirit is their power and the essence of their Being.

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Yes very popular, would you care to answer my question on the other thread or shall I transfer it here?

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Are you then saying there was only ever one God and that Jesus Christ was not God before He became flesh?

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Are you then saying that Jesus was, and is not God and was not God made flesh?

If you are then you and I am still dead in my sins, for only God as a sacrifice would be enough to take all of my and mankind's sins.

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If not, how can anyone be saved?

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