Quote (Wakeup @ May 28 2014,17:20)Quote (vjesnik @ May 28 2014,18:10)Quote (Wakeup @ May 28 2014,15:45)Quote (vjesnik @ May 28 2014,16:35)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 28 2014,04:55)Hi VJ, Yes the Spirit of Christ was in the Prophets and in the desert as you show.And the word was spoken through angels And Hebrews 1-2 contrasts Jesus Christ with the…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 28 2014,15:45)Quote (vjesnik @ May 28 2014,16:35)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 28 2014,04:55)Hi VJ, Yes the Spirit of Christ was in the Prophets and in the desert as you show.And the word was spoken through angels And Hebrews 1-2 contrasts Jesus Christ with the angelsHi NickI showed, actually the scripture shows it was the Christ…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 28 2014,06:44)Hi JV, You quoteExodus 23; 20-22 “Behold, I send an angel before you to guard you on the way and to bring you to the place that I have prepared. Pay careful attention to him and obey his voice; do not rebel against him, for he will not pardon your transgression, for my name is in him. ” Yes the angel of the L…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 28 2014,05:38)Quote (vjesnik @ May 27 2014,23:50)Quote (kerwin @ May 28 2014,02:56)vjesnik,Quote Is the archangel Michael the same person as Jesus?Jesus is not an angel as God did not subject the world to come to angels but it is subjected to Jesus.kerwin1 Corinthians 10; 1-4 For I do not want you to be unaware, brothers,…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 28 2014,05:15)Hi JV, Heb  1 1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 28 2014,05:00)Hi VJ,Daniel 10:13But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.Daniel 10:21But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 28 2014,04:55)Hi VJ, Yes the Spirit of Christ was in the Prophets and in the desert as you show.And the word was spoken through angels And Hebrews 1-2 contrasts Jesus Christ with the angelsHi NickI showed, actually the scripture shows it was the Christ who was going with them “…and the Rock was Christ.” It is very clear…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 28 2014,02:56)vjesnik,Quote Is the archangel Michael the same person as Jesus?Jesus is not an angel as God did not subject the world to come to angels but it is subjected to Jesus.kerwin1 Corinthians 10; 1-4 For I do not want you to be unaware, brothers, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 28 2014,03:02)Hi, This false doctrine comes from poor, one verse, inferential scriptural analysis.It shows how scriptural study must be done with care or it makes fools of us.NickThere is more than one verse that I quoted brother Nick, and you are saying it is only one. You are saying untruths and just your opinion. Yet…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 28 2014,02:49)Vjesnik.First of all.What bible are you studying?Because jesus was never called an angel in scripture.Daniel also quoted that Micha'el is ONE OF the four chiefangels.wakeup.wakeupI read the Bible in my language, but no worry you can find it all of the versions. the Lord is called an angel, the angel, the angel of…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 28 2014,02:15)Vjesnik.I know the jw's teach that doctrine.Just ponder on this scripture.John 1.WITHOUT HIM WAS *NOT ANYTHING* MADE THAT WAS MADE.MICHA''EL AND THE OTHER ANGELS WERE MADE BY THE WORD.That should dismiss that false doctrine.The Word of God that was made flesh; is named Jesus.And the Word was from everlasting.…[Read more]

I see John 1:1 exactly the way he meant to write it.There is the God  (only true God) and God (the Son of God)We can find confirmation to this further in the text, although we have to look into Greek and not rely on trinitarian translations, but rather on the originals.<>King James Version 15John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was…[Read more]

Quote What is the difference between colossians 1:15 in KJV which says:Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: and  your bible . Quote  Col 1:15-16 is basically saying, “Jesus HAS TO BE the firstborn of all creation, BECAUSE all things were created THROUGH him.” To me first born of all creation is quite different f…[Read more]

Quote vjesnik,Read these scriptures, and you yourself decide what Jesus is according to the Father.Hebrews 1:7 And to the angels indeed he saith: He that maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 8 But to the Son: Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of justice is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9 Thou hast loved…[Read more]

Quote I might start another thread for that question – unless you want to.  We could start at Genesis, and work through every prophecy of Jesus to see if the Father ever claimed him to be God Himself.  And then move on to the words of the Father in the NT.Hi MikeFeel free to start another thread.God blessvjesnik

Thanks EdGod blessvjesnik

An earlier text:Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared. Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him. But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto…[Read more]

There are a lot of opinions on who Jesus is and lot of biblical texts that different doctrines interpret differently. So how to know which interpretations are right?To me most wise would be to start with this question: who God the Father says Jesus was/is? Once we have the answer to this question it would be wise to conclude that all…[Read more]

“God” is title and not a name. “God” is a term that is used to describe supreme being with authority (good or bad), but also false gods, carved images… When we are talking about only true God bible is very clear about that: “And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.”(John 17:3) So…[Read more]