Quote (Cubes @ July 21 2005,18:38)Amen, Vic.  But could you please clarify the last two sentences for me?Sure cubes,YHWH is not JesusYHWH is the Father of JEsusand Jesus is the son of the Father, the one true living God.Father is not JEsus. THe FAther is in Jesus. (THe fulness of God dwells in Him)i search search search searh, i think think think…[Read more]

1 Cor 8:66 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. One God the father FROM whom all things came One Lord Jesus Christ THROUGH whom all things cameThe father FROM whom all things Jesus Christ THROUGH…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 20 2005,20:52)Hi I, 1Jn 4.2″By this you will know the Spirit of God;every spirit that confesses that JESUS CHRIST has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God;this is the spirit of the antichrist”If your doctrine says YHWH has come in the flesh that doctine,by scriptures…[Read more]

POINT NO. 4In this verse you prove that Jesus the Second man whom is Lord (YHWH) from heaven.he first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven (King James Version)I look on other versions here they are…1 Cor 15:47-48The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven. NIV1 Cor 15:47The first man is…[Read more]

POINT NO. 3You believe that the YHWH Moses and the Israelites saw in the dessert is the incarnate Jesus. You arrive at this conclusion because YHWH is invisible, therefore there must be a second YHWH, for how could you explain the visible YHWH Moses saw? You explain.Why don’t we use scriptures to explain this seemingly contradicting passages. W…[Read more]

POINT NO. 21.The word ELOHIM.  I have already posted its definition by the International Standard Bible Ency .  to be brief here is the conclusion of that….It is the reasonable conclusion that the meaning is “might” or “power”; that it is common to Semitic language; that the form is plural to express majesty or “all-mightiness,” and that it is…[Read more]

Hi YHWH is Jesus advocatesAfter reading your lengthy posts, let me enumerate several points that occur again and again in your posts that were used to support your beliefs that YHWH of Host is the incarnate Jesus. To wit;1.Your interpretation of the word. ECHAD.2.Your interpretation of word ELOHIM3.The scripture that said that Jesus is the…[Read more]

'Elohim, “God”: This is the most frequently used name in the Old Testament, as its equivalent theos, is in the New Testament, occurring in Gen alone approximately 200 t. It is one of a group of kindred words, to which belong also 'El and 'Eloah. (1) Its form is plural, but the construction is uniformly singular, i.e. it governs a singular verb or…[Read more]

Quote (Christofer @ July 20 2005,02:20)Where is YHWH applied to the Father?I will tell the promise that the LORD made to me.You are my son, because today i have become your Father.Psalm 2:4

Quote (Christofer @ July 20 2005,04:25)Quote And Yeshua is demonstrated in these scriptures not to be YHWH so I think you need to accept that at face value. If no man had seen the Father – yet Isaiah saw Yahweh – who is Yahweh -at face value? Yahweh can't be the Father without Jesus being made a liar – can He?  This is something I have been…[Read more]

Quote (liljon @ July 19 2005,23:01)Exodus 4:1 And Moses answered and said, But, behold, they will not believe me, nor hearken unto my voice: for they will say, The LORD hath not appeared unto thee. God himself was that “Angel” (messenger).20 But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.” -NIV Ex 33:20If YHWH is the angel…[Read more]

Epi, I’m sure we can all agree that Jesus pre-existed even way before the Old Testament. He pre-existed before time as the Word of God. The Word was with God in the beginning. We can also read in the bible that the Holy Spirit has divine attributes and personality as well. And of course there’s the Father.And these scriptures post a problem bec…[Read more]

11 The LORD (YHWH) would speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks with his friend. Then Moses would return to the camp, but his young aide Joshua son of Nun did not leave the tent. NIV Ex 33:11-1220 But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.” -NIV Ex 33:2037 “This is that Moses who told the Israelites, `God will…[Read more]

Rev 5:5-75 and one of the elders said to me, “Stop weeping; behold, the Lion that is from the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has overcome so as to open the book and its seven seals.” 6 And I saw between the throne (with the four living creatures) and the elders a Lamb standing, as if slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the…[Read more]

hi guest 2,on the contrary your conclusion is not simple.So if YHWH is a person and the father is a person and the holy spirit is a person and the word is a person, that would make 4 persons in all, right?unless of course you want to make it mystical and complicated by explaining to me the mystery of the 3 in 1 godhead.

hi epistemaniac,If Scripture say He's mighty God. i have no problem with that.as to why he was called such, cubes renditions' suit fine me just fine.All i'm saying is that YHWH is not JEsus Christ.Now if you mean to say that because he was called mighty God and conclude that He is aslo YHWH. I must admit I have a problem with that proposition.…[Read more]

Hi epistemaniac,I must have missed something. why do ask me this question? I agree with the scriptures.”why is Jesus referred to as the mighty God then vic?Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given;and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be calledWonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father,…[Read more]

this could be a case of mistaken identity which comes from the close relationship of YHWH to JESUS, let me enumerate as many as I can remember…1.YHWH and JESUS are both Divine2.What ever YHWH has, Jesus owns3.JESUS is the exact representation of YHWH4.JESUS is the image of the invisible YHWH5.JESUS was with YHWH in the beginning6.YHWH m…[Read more]

In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his p…[Read more]

Hi everybody.With regards to the pre-existence of Jesus, my thoughts are these…If you regard time as part of creation, meaning time was created at the same time as space and matter. Then the scriptures that say Jesus was before the creation, would mean that He was beyond time and therefore with God ever since. For to me, to be outside of time is…[Read more]