UMB5 replied to the topic Jesus merely a man, God, a god, an Angel, Son of God, what does the bible teach? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 6 months ago
Your doctrine is made up as nowhere in Scripture is Jesus literally said to be anything other than a human being. The teaching you adhere to looks for ambiguities in words in order to support its claims.
Scripture teaches us there is one human being the mediates between God and humanity and he is Jesus Christ who gave his life for…
UMB5 replied to the topic Jesus merely a man, God, a god, an Angel, Son of God, what does the bible teach? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 6 months ago
UMB5,
Your doctrine is made up as nowhere in Scripture is Jesus literally said to be anything other than a human being. The teaching you adhere to looks for ambiguities in words in order to support its claims.
Scripture teaches us there is one human being the mediates between God and humanity and he is Jesus Christ who gave his life for…
UMB5 replied to the topic Jesus merely a man, God, a god, an Angel, Son of God, what does the bible teach? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 6 months ago
(2) Sure, because the words in Heb.2-5 (the situation becomes clear that Jesus was never an Angel at any time
If Jesus were an Angel (at any time), then there is a contradiction between verse 5 and verse 8.For unto the angels HATH HE NOT put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.” (Heb 2:5
“Thou(JEHOVAH of Armies) hast put…
UMB5 replied to the topic Jesus merely a man, God, a god, an Angel, Son of God, what does the bible teach? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 6 months ago
(2) Sure, because the words in Heb.2-5 (the situation becomes clear that Jesus was never an Angel <span class=”bbcode-underline”>at any time</span>)
<span class=”bbcode-color” style=”color: blue;”>If Jesus were an Angel (at any time), then there is a contradiction between verse 5 and verse 8.</span><span class=”bbcode-color”…
UMB5 replied to the topic Jesus merely a man, God, a god, an Angel, Son of God, what does the bible teach? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 6 months ago
Hi UMB5,
Jesus comes with the voice of the archangel and the sound of the trumpet.
Why be selective?
Is Jesus Christ a trumpet to you?
Okay…so first of all instead of throwing out insults, just stick to scriptures. I take it that you are saying that Jesus is not Michael the archangel, however he is coming with Michael, and wi…[Read more]
UMB5 replied to the topic Jesus merely a man, God, a god, an Angel, Son of God, what does the bible teach? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 6 months ago
Hi UMB5,
Jesus comes with the voice of the archangel and the sound of the trumpet.
Why be selective?
Is Jesus Christ a trumpet to you?
Okay…so first of all the scripture says “with the voice of an archangel, and the trumpet call of God”, so no he is not a trumpet and there is no being selective.. it seems to be your logic th…[Read more]
UMB5 replied to the topic Jesus merely a man, God, a god, an Angel, Son of God, what does the bible teach? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 6 months ago
Hi UMB5,
Jesus comes with the voice of the archangel and the sound of the trumpet.
Why be selective?
Is Jesus Christ a trumpet to you?
Okay…so first of all the scripture is “with the voice of an archangel, and the trumpet call of God”, so no he is not a trumpet and there is no being selective.. it seems to be your logic that is cl…[Read more]
UMB5 replied to the topic Jesus merely a man, God, a god, an Angel, Son of God, what does the bible teach? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 6 months ago
Hi UMB5,
(1)Are you asking me this to find out if I believe in “The Rapture”
Or
(2)Are you asking me to explain the verse the way I see things?No I was not asking about the Rapture; and Yes I was asking for your explanation of this verse the way you see them.
1) There is no rapture – the doctrine of “the Rapture” is man-made
Agreed – but I thi…[Read more]
UMB5 replied to the topic Jesus merely a man, God, a god, an Angel, Son of God, what does the bible teach? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 6 months ago
EDJ
(1)Are you asking me this to find out if I believe in “The Rapture”
NO
Or
(2)Are you asking me to explain the verse the way I see things?Yes
1) There is no rapture – the doctrine of “the Rapture” is man-made –
Agreed, although we may have just opened up a whole new discussion
2) If you want a further explanation, please say so;
becau…UMB5 replied to the topic Jesus merely a man, God, a god, an Angel, Son of God, what does the bible teach? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 6 months ago
EDJ
(1)Are you asking me this to find out if I believe in “The Rapture” No
Or
(2)Are you asking me to explain the verse the way I see things? <span style=”color: #800000;”>Yes please</span>1) There is no rapture – the doctrine of “the Rapture” is man-made – <span style=”color: #800000;”>Agreed, although we may have just opened up a whole new…
UMB5 replied to the topic Jesus merely a man, God, a god, an Angel, Son of God, what does the bible teach? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 6 months ago
EDJ
(1)Are you asking me this to find out if I believe in “The Rapture” No
Or
(2)Are you asking me to explain the verse the way I see things?<span style=”color: #ff0000;”> Yes</span>1) There is no rapture – the doctrine of “the Rapture” is man-made – <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>Agreed, although we may have just opened up a whole new discussio…
UMB5 replied to the topic Trinity Doctrine resources in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
Correction
No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is Himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made Him known.” – John 1:18
If no man has ever seen God, than how is Jesus God when lots of people saw him, even after his resurrection?
It seems that I am the one who misquoted you. My apologies.
UMB5 replied to the topic Jesus merely a man, God, a god, an Angel, Son of God, what does the bible teach? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 6 months ago
Both of these questions are rhetorical – meaning to NONE of the Angels.
How do we know they are rehetorical? It seems at looking at the other scriptures above it, its meaning None of the other Angels, because verses 3-4 show that the position given to him by his father, is what made him superior to the angels, just as superior of a name he was…[Read more]
UMB5 replied to the topic do we mentaly accept the gifts are still available today ? in the forum View Points 9 years, 6 months ago
Absolutely!
UMB5 replied to the topic MIRACLES in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 7 months ago
Following the bible when they say Jesus is an archangel??
“But For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.- 1st Thessalonians 4:16
you received me as an angel of God, as Christ Jesus Himself.” -Gal.…[Read more]
UMB5 replied to the topic MIRACLES in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 7 months ago
Following the bible when they say Jesus is an archangel??
“But For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.- 1st Thessalonians 4:16
you received me as an angel of God, as Christ Jesus Himself.” -Gal. 4:14
Scripture…
UMB5 replied to the topic MIRACLES in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 7 months ago
Following the bible when they say Jesus is an archangel??
“But For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.- 1st Thessalonians 4:16
you received me as an angel of God, as Christ Jesus Himself.” -Gal. 4:14
Scripture…
UMB5 replied to the topic MIRACLES in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 7 months ago
The JW religion is irrelevant in the heavenly view so why do you take it so seriously?
I agree. Maybe you should ask Miia this question. What I take seriously is slander. I said in my previous post that It frustrates me when someone slanders any group or religion based on misconceptions and lies.
A group of people following a man has not rel…
UMB5 replied to the topic Development of the Trinity Doctrine – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
Would you please share your understanding of the following scripture:
This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.</span>
I have seen T8 give you this scripture over and over but I don’t believe I have seen you responded or address it. I am curious to what you find this scripture…[Read more]
UMB5 replied to the topic Development of the Trinity Doctrine – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
Would you please share your understanding of the following scripture:
<span style=”color: #ff0000;”>This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.</span>
I have seen T8 give you this scripture over and over but I don’t believe I have seen you responded or address it. I am curious…[Read more]
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