Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 09 2006,07:38)Hi H, Fine words which will find a ready bunch of itchy ears. Not much scriptural evidence behind them though.Nick,I would like to encourage you by saying that I admire the demeanor of your posts (at least the ones that I have seen). Even you and I have disagreed on some issues (I think), but your demeanor…[Read more]

Quote (seminarian @ Aug. 09 2006,15:55)T,I knew who our Lord Jesus Christ is and who his Father is LONG before entering any seminary so you speak without understanding.  You seem intimidated by someone with a theological education, otherwise, why would you even bring this up?Here's another extra Biblical assumption you've made and I quote:”But…[Read more]

Quote (Oxy @ Aug. 09 2006,01:48)Yeah, they were teaching the Word of God.  They were teaching Jesus.  Try reading the Scriptures from this point of view. When you see the Word of God, think of it being Jesus, not the Bible and it will have a whole new meaning.  It will lift up and bring glory to Jesus instead of the book.  Remember that the boo…[Read more]

Quote (seminarian @ Aug. 08 2006,15:59)Hi T,Still waiting for a reply.Last Point:Answer these two questions from scripture please, (without trying to use qualifiiers not found in the Bible)…..1.)  Does the Lord Jesus have a God?2.)   Does God the Father have a god? You haven't answered a straight question yet.  Let's see how you do with th…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 08 2006,12:07)Hi T,So the earthen vesssels are the apostlesThe power mentioned in ve 7 is of God.The power is the Holy Spirit power and not human power.”1Therefore, since we have this (A)ministry, as we (B)received mercy, we ©do not lose heart, 2but we have renounced the (D)things hidden because of shame, not walking in…[Read more]

Quote (seminarian @ Aug. 08 2006,02:01)T, I'm going to need some Tylenol pretty quick here.You side-stepped a direct question.  I didn't ask if you believed in denominationalism.I asked if you were or subscribe to the beliefs of Oneness Pentecostals.  So you're a Modalist, fine.No one like double-talk around here so just tell the truth.Listen, y…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 07 2006,22:45)Hi t,There is apparent conflict between the two statements of yours below.In one you show that God has manifested IN Christ Jesus which I agree with.In the second you claim they are the same being.Which is true?Are they one being in two forms as modalism and trinity theorists propose Or was God IN Christ as…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 07 2006,22:02)Hi typrsn, Jesus is a glorious vessel for the Spirit of God poured into him at the Jordan.So are weNick,Jesus' public ministry officially began when He was baptized by John at the river Jordan being 30 years of age (Luke 3:23) according to Jewish custom. He knew at the age of 12 He had to accomplish His…[Read more]

Quote (seminarian @ Aug. 07 2006,19:58)Typrsn,No one's accusing you of authorizing the capitalization of the word logos in the Bible.Good response to a point, however I must ask.  Are you a Oneness Pentecostal?What you are talking about is Modalism which is saying there is no distinctperson, will or begetting of Jesus Christ from His Father.…[Read more]

Quote (seminarian @ Aug. 07 2006,16:08)Hi Oxy,You have to realize that there are no capitals or lower case in the original Greek manuscripts, (codices).  Therefore capitalization was placed there by the translators.  Here is the proper sequence or order of the Greek words in John 1:1- “In the beginning was the word and the word was toward God a…[Read more]

Quote (Oxy @ Aug. 07 2006,09:05)Thanks for your reply.  I totally agree with you, but where is it written that the Bible is the Word of God? Jesus referred to them as the words of God, but my understanding is that there is only one Word of God (Jesus) although a direct message from God can also be called a word of God.What you have shown me is…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Aug. 07 2006,10:06)I believe the church is first made up of only true believers, spread throughout many denominations (including those with no “church” affiliation), they being those who have a relationship with God. God's church in a city is the body of true believers within that city (spread about though they may be). The…[Read more]

Quote (Woutlaw @ Aug. 05 2006,02:33)Quote (typrsn @ Aug. 04 2006,19:44)Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ Aug. 04 2006,16:39)Consider what you may, but consider this as well. No place does it say that if you do not speak in tongues that you have not recieved the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Your zealousness in wonderful, but to teach things that are…[Read more]

Quote (seminarian @ Aug. 04 2006,23:04)Hi Trprsn,I really appreciate the change in the tenor over your last post.  Much better! You maynot think that you are puffed up, but that is exactly how you came acrosshere.  The law this, God's commandments that, I'm an ordained minister the other.Re-read your last post and cite how many times you i…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 04 2006,22:39)Hi Typsrm,Should Peter or Paul or Philip have refused baptism to those whom God had shown were ready while they checked with the legal or religious authorities??In matters relating to God we serve God and if we are imprisoned or die for that obedience we count it joy.Nick,Of course they should not have. God…[Read more]

Quote (seminarian @ Aug. 04 2006,21:05)Typrsn,Obviously the nerve was struck with YOU as all you did was try to justify”yourself” in your response.  You wrote:  “The loving God commands believers to expose error.”That's right and that's why I exposed yours!  I'm glad you appreciated that.This was priceless:”The job of an ordained minister as my…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 04 2006,20:25)Thank you typsrn, Good posts.And a good choice not to continue to press against a wall that cannot budge on any matter.Nick,Thanks so much. It is one thing for us to disagree, but when the emotions begin to flare up, it's time to back off. We can disagree without being disagreeable. The wrath of man does not…[Read more]

Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ Aug. 04 2006,17:29)Romans 10:9 that if you will confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.Romans 10:13 For, “Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.”Ephesians 2:5 even when we were dead through our trespasses, made us…[Read more]

Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ Aug. 04 2006,16:39)Consider what you may, but consider this as well. No place does it say that if you do not speak in tongues that you have not recieved the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Your zealousness in wonderful, but to teach things that are contrary to the word of God is not wonderful. I have battled with some…[Read more]

Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ Aug. 04 2006,15:50)Quote (typrsn @ Aug. 03 2006,19:24)Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ Aug. 03 2006,18:45)Dear typrsn,I have heard of your religion and it has scarred a brother that comes to this forum. Let me make sure before I slice and dice your doctrine with the Word of God. Does one have to speak in tongues to…[Read more]