Quote (malcolm ferris @ Aug. 11 2006,03:43)Hi TyprsnThankyou for your comments – your perspective is refreshing.Personally I think that the inability to differentiate between the physical Son of God, and the sonship that God's exercises through him, (even as he exercised fatherhood through Israel in the OT) – this inability causes some to make…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 11 2006,02:32)Hi typsrn, It is not us who added the word [BACK} to the verse in Hebrews.Nick,In all honesty you were the only person at this forum that kept me coming back to it. I'm amazed that even though I have presented much evidence that this is the response that I get. So you're saying that the Christ the writer of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 11 2006,02:51)Hi Typ, In 1Cor 3.6f what did Paul plant? surely the gospel seed.With what did Apollos water?  surely teaching in the Spirit.The foundation stone was laid of Christ by water and the Spirit.But the growth that is of God in fruit and perhaps gifts does not seem to be immediately apparent.Does that matter? Is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 11 2006,02:34)Hi typsrn,Are there not many gifts?Are all gifted in tongues?Nick,There are many gifts. No, all do not have the gift of tongues (1 Cor. 12:10, 30). Neither do all have the gift of faith (1 Cor.12:9). But hold on. I thought all had to have faith to be saved. Just as there is a difference between the faith…[Read more]

Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ Aug. 11 2006,01:46)Dear Ty,1) No, if a person does not receive the Holy Ghost, that person is not saved. Jesus told Nicodemus that we must be born again and He described the birth of the Spirit (John 3:1-8). Paul also says in Rom. 8:9 that if any person does not have the Spirit of Christ he is none of His. He also…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 11 2006,01:28)Hi trpsrn, Your post does raise questions then about the Eunuch and the others who had yet to have hands laid on them to manifest the baptism of the Spirit. And those in Galatians that Paul was anxious about as to when the fruit of the Spirit of Christ was to become manifest in them. The development of the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 10 2006,21:35)Hi typrsn, Here is Acts 13 in contextTwo verse from the same chapter.Acts 13 .22″After He had (A)removed him, He raised up David to be their king, concerning whom He also testified and said, '(B)I HAVE FOUND DAVID the son of Jesse, A MAN AFTER MY HEART, who will do all My will.'” and v 33 33″that God has…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 10 2006,22:50)Hi t, I believe because scripture does we do have to discriminate betweenReceiving the Spirit[Jn 20.22 and Being baptised in the Spirit.Those baptised in the Spirit are overflowed with the Spirit of Christ manifesting in them..You say”3) In the instances recorded in Acts 2:4; Acts 10:46; Acts 19:6 they spake…[Read more]

Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ Aug. 09 2006,22:00)Hello, are you still here typrsn? I have read and if I am not mistaken, you and possibley oxy are advocates for the trinity doctrine? If so, let me know for sure. Then it will help me understand where you are coming from in part. Because I will know then that you are subscribing to the doctrines of…[Read more]

Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ Aug. 09 2006,21:45)This is where you are wrong typrsn. I am not concerned about myself at all. What I am concerned with is false doctrine. I am at war with the world and the lies of the world. I am an enemy to the world and the world hates me. For all who stand in Christ will be the enemies of the world. So when…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2006,04:24)Hi Is 1.18, Paul was very fond of Psalm 2.It contains a description of the day of begettal of the Son of our Father God.    7″I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD:         He said to Me, 'You are (M)My Son,         Today I have begotten You. When do you think this event occurred?Nick,Since you have…[Read more]

Quote (seminarian @ Aug. 10 2006,14:43)Hey Nick & Cubes,Great posts.  Thanks for saving me the time to respond to T's inane ramblings.T, none of your “questions” change the definitions of the word “god” found in the Bible, a common household dictionary and the Lord Jesus' own blessed mouth.If you wish to remain in your ignorance, there is not…[Read more]

Quote (Oxy @ Aug. 09 2006,21:59)I'm totally amazed.  All these posts and no-one has yet been able to show me how the Bible got to be called the Word (logos) of God when it has always been and will always be the most wonderful title given to Him who we call Jesus.That COULD have something to do with the fact that most of the posts have strayed…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 09 2006,21:50)Hi t, Can you not see the obvious inconsistency here?Go Himself does not have blood and this scripture does not prove he has.The Son of God is of that royal 'bloodline'.Do you believe Jesus is the only begotten Son and the physical son of God and not just son of God by appellation or in name only?”It is true…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 09 2006,20:43)Hi t, As you will know God is spirit. “God is not man that he should lie”The blood that was shed was that of his SonIndeed Jesus was a vessel for His Father and revealed His Father to kmen in this way. He was of divine origins in the beginning but emptied himself to become as we are. we are not divine so he…[Read more]

Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ Aug. 09 2006,19:49)typrsn,You can run, but you can't hide. You think your remark will go unchallenged? Do you think I did not know it was towards me. It is good to be uplifting. Yet, it is not good to encourge unsound doctrine. Your backing of Nick only hurts your own testimony and your words as to saying that they…[Read more]

Quote (Oxy @ Aug. 09 2006,20:21)Now ladies and gentlemen, and some not so gentle (seminarian) who shows the ungodly traits of ridicule and insult lol.  Back onto the topic………… (ref my last post)Oxy,I'm sorry. I hope I haven't insulted or ridiculed anyone here.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 09 2006,20:09)Hi typsrn, Christ means anointed.Acts 10 ascribes the work of God done through him to this anointing with the Holy Spirit and power.His work began after his anointing with the Holy Spirit in the Jordan.He did no recorded works of power befopre the Father filled him with His Spirit.IN him was the fullness of…[Read more]

Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ Aug. 09 2006,19:17)Dear typrsn,Can symbolism baptize us into Christ? This is the baptism that is symbolic of what happens to a man when he is baptized into Christ?Is the water really the grave or is this symbolic of the grave. When the man comes up out of the water, is it at that moment he is a new creature in Christ…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 09 2006,09:14)Quote (Oxy @ Aug. 09 2006,08:50)According to my understanding of Scripture there are 3 baptisms.  There is the baptism into Christ (water baptism), the baptism in the Holy Spirit and the baptism unto death, which is followed by the ressurection.  This is depicted by the 3 feasts that must be kept forever.  …[Read more]