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  • #781330
    Wayne
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    Terra,

    Rev 20:5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.)
     Rev 20:7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison(it says will be released so not directly right after the 1000 years )

    Rev 20:13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.

    1)2) Rev 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.(those nation are coming from the second resurrection)

    3)Rev 20:9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.(this was the end or their wickedness )
     this happen after the second resurrection and after the 1000 years and after the time given to judge all the people that came out of the second resurrection

    I see you have shuffled the verses, something you used to condemn funnily enough!

    Strange how some can do those things they condemn others for! .. hmmm.

    Nevertheless ..

    You are closer than you used to be .. I see you have learned off of Wakeup after all ..

    Except I see you have decided to change it up a bit to give that “I discerned this all on my own” appeal ..

    But unfortunately,  your input is way way off  ..

    There are no more bad guys after the second judgment I am afraid to inform you.

    Shouldn’t this be painfully obvious by the nature of the actual second judgment itself?

    So disconcerting to behold.

     

    #781329
    Wayne
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    Discernment = spot on.

    As Satan waits for his release, the ruins of the world become inhabited by his minions ..

    Revelation 18:2  And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

    As in days past, and even in todays world, ruins always attracted those practicing the occult arts ..

    So will it be in the future ..

    And as the generations pass and the old world (todays world) fades into legend (amongst the rebels during the millennium) ..

    These ruins will become even more sacred and mysterious and visited ..

    And all the while Satans minions will be hard at work ..

    Hard at work deceiving with welcoming arms ..

    God bless.

     

     

     

     

     

    #781328
    Wayne
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    “so we should believe you and wakeup and throw the scriptures away i guess ,i hope no one does that opinions of man are not to be followed only scriptures m”

    Well you already have thrown away most of the scriptures to keep your mainstream invented doctrine by so called “church fathers’ from where your belief on this subject so obviously stems .. Oh and your view was from the time where the vision was still sealed, hence yours and their mistake ..

    But just keep drinking that wine .. that way you can continue feeling secure as you gnash and claw and rend ..

    Just behold the many scriptures you must ignore on this subject!

    You must be very good at denial while you cling on to a few verses you think justifies your man made speculation.

    Its a circus really .. so cheer on the clowns.

    Either your discernment is poor or you are editing the incoming information with preconceived concepts if you can not perceive that ch21 is a continuation of ch20 ..

    And that, my confused man, is after Christ hands back the kingdom to the Father.

    So go ahead, continue discarding scriptures for your narrow view by all means ..

    There is only One who can save you from yourself ..

    But you don’t seem to be listening to Him either.

    #781323
    Wayne
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    The kingdom of God is at hand for every generation.

    Why?

    Because our lives are but a brief passing in the overall grand scheme.

    Not only that, in its specificity, millions of that particular generation Christ directly uttered those words to .. were killed some mere forty years later in 70 ad .. assuredly it was at hand for that bulk group!!

    Just like it is for all of us ..

    It would be prudent to remember .. That the majority of people who die were still making plans for “next week”

    The kingdom was definitely at hand for them likewise!

    Thank you.

     

     

     

    #781321
    Wayne
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    Good strong points wakeup.

    Just as the Israelites must make their own way to Israel after Christ returns and whilst He reigns in Jerusalem at that!!

    Yet Christians are already gathered and changed in the twinkling of an eye to meet Christ in the clouds .. so what are these flesh ones still doing alive, let alone being gathered <span style=”text-decoration: underline;”>to Israel </span> and by foot at that, if all was melted at Christs coming??

    Not only that, and concerning that, why does God dry up the tongue of the Egyptian Sea for them to return and make them cross over dryshod as they did in the day that the Lord brought them out of the land of Egypt if the old earth is melted up??

    Why would God bother drying up the rivers for to make literal highways, as opposed to its spiritual meaning, to guide them back to Israel after Christs return  if the earth was melted up?? (They are returning over the same terrain/places/lands we have with us even today!!)

    And why weren’t they gathered at the Christian harvest to meet Christ in the clouds??

    But are gathered after His return and yet are still flesh!!

    Why weren’t they melted??

    And why are heathens pleading to any Jew they come across to take them to Israel for they heard the Lord is there!!

    What are heathens still doing alive after the second coming, they should have been melted up too!!

    Wakeup .. I am afraid that traditions run deep .. and the glass is clouded .. and teachers are heaped up.

    Thus I agree with you ..

    There is no possible new earth after Christs 2nd coming & neither is there one, by extension, during Christs  millennial rule.

    And that is scriptural.

    Keep up the good work ..

    God bless.

     

     

     

     

     

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