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[stosh64]

Have you been to RW`s site?  http://www.ronaldweinland.com/

His latest entry appears to backing down from previous “predictions”.  He appears to be a little confused and has said maybe things wont happen now till Nov. or Dec.  lol.  All we can do is pray for the man.

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Although there is a marked increase in the thunders, there is still no physical evidence in the trumpets. And even though I have stated July 16 as a kind of deadline for the Second Trumpet, I am now deeply convinced that nothing concerning the trumpets will have occurred by that time. This is not pleasant to have to address, as all of us have planned our lives on such timing. If the second trumpet sounds, with nuclear explosions in port cities, then everything will indeed be fully in line with what I’ve stated in the last interviews and in some sermons. But I do want to state again, I no longer believe that to be the case. The bottom line is, I must follow what I believe God is showing me. If I have jumped the gun in a couple of interviews and interjected my own understanding into the timing of events, and have thereby been presumptuous, then I will repent and move forward.

Seems a little “foggy” in his thinking for one of the 2 witnesses.

Praying we all find the Truth,
God Bless,
Stosh

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Quote (Samuel @ June 02 2008,10:25)

Well I was actually not aware of this Chinese I Ching thing. I have to admit…that I've heard some pretty good tells…I've even heard some stuff that has sounded so intelligent that I've almost been convinced of it myself. I just went to another church this morning (I missed the service time for the church that I usually go to).  And, the message was quite interesting.  Various things were discussed…some of which were: 1.) That most people have demons mis-conceived, mainly because of Hollywood.  They think that Satan has a red suit and a sharp pointed tail and a pitch fork…and that demons are Horrid or really evil looking things. Now maybe there are some evil looking things…but I don't think thats how Satan will be trying to get you to worship or follow him. You can take this for what you want…but heres what the bible says: Quote 2 Corinthians 11 13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. They were discussing how Satan is actually a beautiful…I don't have to quote the bible to you…most of you know just as well how to find in the bible the things that I'm telling you are in fact in the bible…he was actually a beautiful angel.  He can disguise himself as an angel of light. 2.) They were also talking about how intelligent the Demons are …or Fallen Angels…that they actually understand GODS word…most likely better than any of us do. We see that this is displayed with Satan actually trying to quote GODS word to Jesus: Quote Matthew 4:6     And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in [their] hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. Yes we are in a war a spiritual war, yes there is a GOD, our GOD.  And there is a Satan.  But I do have to agree. That things that go bump in the night, or little demons like you've seen in the movies may not exactly be the what you need to watch out for.   There is a spirit plane of existence…that I've been talking about some on here.  We know that sometimes the spirit can manifest itself as the physical.  (You can call these other dimensions if you like, if you can relate to it better.)  We know that Jesus was manifest in the flesh…the Physical.  I would imagine that Satan most likely has some of this type of power afforded to him as well. So…maybe he or his angels can look like ugly demons…or maybe not.  Maybe they would chose to appear to you as something far more appealing?  So that you might be deceived.  Maybe as an alien? Maybe as a Tall White Skinned Caucasian with Deep Blue eyes, and long white hair and long flowering beard? You decide… I can tell you that I believe that a lot of what is being taught to people now days is false.   2012…maybe something is going to happen on this day.   The bible tells me that know man knows the hour or the day…at best…In my opinion…2012 is a best guess that may be somewhat close to the actual time of some events that are to take place. What I find most interesting about the Mayans and there pyramid  and/ or their Kukulcan or Quetzalcoatl…is that it is a Feathered Serpent…that can transform into this Nice looking Caucasian man.  Something is quite fishy there, you think? Look at the pyramids in Egypt…and the River of the Nile…how all of that is actually aligned with the stars as well…and the Nile  represents a snake. Very interesting I would say… We know that Lies are mixed in with the truth. There is a book out called Domain…written by a Steve Alten I believe it is.   Of course, this is a quite “Fiction” book…however…its a very good display of all of this stuff that is actually fact comprised together to create a very False tale. You can see that the author has actually researched this stuff quite extensively to support his tell…no doubt he has some Facts mixed in with his fiction story.  I've researched them myself. I think that Aliens may very well be Satan and his fallen Angels…up till now I've actually given thought that there actually might be other life…and who knows maybe there is.   Only GOD knows that for sure. However, anyone that gets serious about finding GODS truth…and researches a number of things…can clearly see that they have been lied too.   And, that there are some dots that can easily be connected.  It's really right in front of our face. I think time is winding down…Satan knows his time is short…He probably has a better Idea of it then we …being as how he knows the time that Adam and Eve were in the Garden. There is a lot of stuff that people keep tripping over…Satan has  Indeed laid a host of very lucid and convincing traps for us.  I myself have found my mind trying to believe some of these elaborate tales. We need to quit trying to be RIGHT…I'm serious people.  Its not about how RIGHT we are …thats some of what corrupted Satan…Because with us having to be RIGHT…comes a sense of PRIDE…which is what I'm talking about here.  Satan was PROUD…PRIDE same thing. Well I believe this…or I have a friend that believes this…or so on and so forth.  We need to read and study and search and pray for ourselves… I've had some things come to me and I've not even been praying are studying are searching no where near as hard as I thought I might have to. We need to be able to see a lie, now how the enemy works…and stand against it. I'm no mighty person…myself…but I know that GOD will not let you be deceived if you chose not to be deceived.  If you search for him you will find him…he's probably actually been standing right beside you the whole time…waiting for you to come around.  If you want truth…I mean really want it…then truth is what you'll get…and you'll most likely see that it was right there for you to see in plain day all along. You just have to want it, before he reveals it to you.  GOD is not going to force anything on you.  Thats the whole point…he wants people to want him.  He could have easily made you with no choice but to worship him…however he did not …he gave you the choice he left it up to you…us.   I'm preaching to myself here more than anyone else actually…please don't take offense to my “You” references. This show is winding down folks.  Things are happening…and people don't even realize it.  People are running around looking for stuff like the Exorcist, and they are running from what they think is the Devil…right into his trap. Weather this Ronald guy is for real or not is not even an issue.  Seriously…theres been thousands of false doctrines and prophets…and there may be a few more.  Not sure…I honestly think time is drawing really short here …I don't see that there is a whole lot of time for a whole lot more…but I may be astounded. What the ISSUE is being able to see one coming, see them for what they are.  Not get into arguments with people that they have deceived, but try to help them.  Not throw rocks at them…but …Is anything I'm saying making any sense at all.   We get so evolved with the “Small Foxes” that we don't see the Sword that is about to chop our head off. And even if they are a whatever you think they are …a tool of Satan or whatever…we know there is always some truth mixed in…I would guess that not every one has the gift of being able to tell what is false and what it not.   But some do. Just think if Eve…had been able to see through Satan's Lies…and see the Truth that he was actually telling her…and disregard the False? We are not as smart as we like to think we are…and Satan knows this…he is smarter than all of us and knows we are drawn to wisdom and intelligence.  He uses this against us. You don't think so? … How do you explain Science…look how many people that deceives.  With stuff like evolution, and Astrology, and Space…NASA other life. GOD should be our answer book.  Is the bottom line.  We should get our answers from GOD. I guess that is all I have to say for now.  GOD bless you all!

That gets a BIG AMEN!!!!  Best post I have read in a long long time!  Thanks Samuel,  and God Bless!

[stosh64]

Anyone seen this video sermon?  Really makes ya think.
http://harvestreno.org/messageVideo.asp?id=121&quality=medium

Come Lord Jesus!!!

[stosh64]

Excellent posts David.

[stosh64]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDAmK4YIzww
The second Prophet

Sorry,  I hope you all have a sense of humor

[stosh64]

Quote (discipleelohim @ Feb. 26 2008,09:36)

nick wrote: To get the Spirit of God (Holy Spirit) you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ in Gods Church. So you are saying that you have the Holy Spirit dwelling in you? I will say this again. Those scriptures are for Gods Church. I know you don't understand that. But you will someday soon. Good day

WOW.  You believe the ONLY way to have the Holy Spirit is through the COG?  or PKG  or whatever?

How do you counter that kind of arrogance?

I will be praying that we all see the truth before the end.

In Christs Grace,
Stosh

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2008,09:17)

Quote (discipleelohim @ Feb. 26 2008,08:12) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2008,07:46) Hi DE, How do you know you are not among the 144k? Why do you say none are saved? Romans 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? 1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 1 Corinthians 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. The iron fist is for the rebellious. I just know that I am not. 1 Corinthians 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. The iron fist is for the rebellious. In vain says it all. God has not worked with mankind in the last 6000 years. He has only worked with very few. Those are the 144k in Gods church. The Church of God spoken of in scripture. God was not working with the mass majority of mankind. If he were don't you think he would have more than a 144k to be a part of the first Great Resurrection? Cause if God was trying for more, he did a pretty poor job of it. Of course he wasn't, cause if he was there would be many more than 144k out of billions who have lived. Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he (the 144k) that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. The rest God is working with are “us” (the little ones) at this end time. Our job will be to help others and show them the truths we have learned so they can also live into the new age. Something people don't realize is that most of these scriptures that are being rattled off by traditional christians were written for Gods Church. Not for everyone to interpret in their own mind. Such as trinity and rapture. They are man made interpretations that have no biblical truth. Hi DE, You too can be reborn into the Son of God as it is not too late. John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. 1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. The wrath of God is not for the reborn sons. Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. Colossians 3:6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: 1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. 1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

Good Post Nick,  I was thinking the same thing.

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Quote (Anticipation of Peace @ Feb. 26 2008,08:25)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2008,15:50) Hi, But they cannot agree that anyone is saved outside of the COG. Just loved. Hi Nick. keep God's Commandments

Only one person in history has kept Gods Commandments.  Christ.

Sounds like you think works will get you in?

Trying to follow commandments is great,  and you should want to, after you repent and ask Christ in.  

So Jesus lied to the thief on the Cross?

Luke 23:40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?
41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.
42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.

I dont think he had time to keep the Sabath,  or get  Baptized……

[stosh64]

Thanks Gnipp,  I think we are all searching for the same thing.  The best way to serve our Lord Jesus Christ in these end times.

To quote “seek and you will find”
“All I can say we do have a righteous God who sees all and one Day we all will have to stand in front of God and give account of what we have done.”

It boils down to,  for myself,  that we are saved by Grace,  not works.

EPHESIANS 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

I pray you all find that Grace.
peace,
Stosh

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Quote (WaterAmerican @ Feb. 24 2008,03:53)

Quote (stosh64 @ Feb. 24 2008,03:04) One error by a prophet of God is one too many I`m afraid. That's correct, but Mr. Armstrong was not a prophet.

To re-quote Mr Weinland…
“To deny that Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong was the Elijah to come before the end-time is either ignorant or willing denial of what is true concerning our history and what God did through him. It is God who restored necessary truth to the Church so that a people would be ready for the second-coming of Jesus Christ.”

“Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD. And he will turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers, lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.”
—Malachi 4:5-6

BTW gnipp.  I believe if you re-read that thread,  you will see I never posted on the subject of Elijah.  I believe arrogance and ignorance spew from the rw disciples posts.  There is no hate from myself towards you,  or any of the weinland followers.  I simply try to show that he may not be the “chosen” one you believe him to be.  We all want nothing more than the truth.
In Christ,
Stosh

[stosh64]

OK.  So RW is Gods witness,  which means his word is beyond reproach.
RW states in his booklet titled “Time Has Run Out”,

“To deny that Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong was the Elijah to come before the end-time is either ignorant or willing denial of what is true concerning our history and what God did through him. It is God who restored necessary truth to the Church so that a people would be ready for the second-coming of Jesus Christ.”

OK,  so Armstrong was also sent by God,  according to Gods witness RW.
So as stated by RW,  Armstrongs teachings should be infallable also.
Here are a few predictions by Armstrong that didnt exactly “pan out”

A prophecy about Mussolini:
“Undoubtedly, then, the “Beast” who will capture half the city of Jerusalem, fighting at Armageddon against Christ at his Second Coming, is MUSSOLINI, with ten European Dictators, and their armies! It is coming in This Generation!”
Herbert W. Armstrong, The Plain Truth, January 1939, p. 4

A prophecy about Hitler:
“And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against – against whom? Not Britain and America! Not Israel – against Him that sat on the horse and His army (Rev. 19:19.) It is Christ and the Angels that Hitler will fight.”
Herbert W. Armstrong, The Plain Truth, March/April 1943, p. 6

A prophecy about the second coming of Christ and the destruction of the United States:
“Jeremiah's prophecy is more specific. It is the beginning of the national trouble to come on America, the British nations, and the democracies of north-western Europe! And, as both Jeremiah and Jesus were inspired to record – and also the prophet Daniel – it will be the most catastrophic time of national trouble that has ever struck any nation or ever will! Here is exactly how catastrophic it will be: one third of our entire population will die in the famine and disease epidemic!”
Herbert W. Armstrong, 1975 In Prophecy, p. 11

“But all these things, as Jesus explained, are to be only the beginning of our time of national trouble. “Once we are weakened by starvation, disease and the resulting calamitous economic depression, the Ten-Nation European Colossus will suddenly strike with hydrogen bombs that shall destroy our cities and our centers of industrial and military production!”
Herbert W. Armstrong, 1975 In Prophecy, p. 13

If you want more FALSE prophecies by Armostrong,  just do a search,  the “truth” is out there,  as the RW disciples say.

One error by a prophet of God is one too many I`m afraid.

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