The initial post for this thread (A Coincidence Or A Creation) was about God's Language to Number The beast.440 plus posts later (other than Georg's one example of Latin gematria and Ed J's comment that the Quran is 666) not one comment by others as to the language to number the beast has been posted.Nor has anyone responded as to whether they…[Read more]

Hi T,Re read my post.  This particular “bow” in the Greek text is in regard to “cloth”.It is definitely NOT a weapon, so what you suggest is not applicable here.Karmarie,Regarding Rev 6:2, were you saying that the white horse is the Holy Spirit? … or were you saying it is the rider that is the Holy Spirit?Either way, what would “cloth” have to…[Read more]

Scripture indicates that as the day of the Lord draweth neigh, there will emerge upon the world scene, a final and specific person who will be the one opposed to, or in place of Christ whose name or titile will sum at 666.One can not prove which language God designed to accomplish this “numbering of the beast”, for HE DID NOT TELL US..  However,…[Read more]

THE RIDER, HIS BOW AND HIS CROWN             Georg … regarding the rider on the first white horse with bow and crown that went forth conquering, and to conquer.  Rev 6:2.I agree with your assessment that the rider on the first white horse had (and has) a direct association with promoting a false gospel.  Romanism definitely does not teach u…[Read more]

Hi Karmarie,It seems that there are many divergent opinions as to the nature of the rider on the first white horse.  I have a list of a dozen or more scholars that differ, yet they both offer some convincing evidence.But you are right, most believe this rider to be opposed to Christ.Regarding the link you provided.  I would not totally agree t…[Read more]

Hi Karmarie,No one doubts that the rider on the second white horse is Jesus, that is why my question only involved the first one.In that you believe the first one is the Holy Spirit, what leads you to that conclusion?  Is it something you have read in a commentary, or, do you think that white always indicates purity, or is it more of a gut…[Read more]

Karmarie … I was not going to post because I thought if I couldn't convince you of the identification of the false church through the pope being God on earth and the considerable amount of other evidence I had presented, I figured I was wasting our time.I am very glad that you warned your parents several times.  Not much more you can do other…[Read more]

” ….. The most consistent and frequent promoter of peace and human rights for the last two decades has been Pope John Paul II …. “Karmarie,I was not going to do any further posting, but I found it most interesting that the very person you are defending because of his constant plea for peace, is the very person my research shows to be the beast…[Read more]

Yes T … you are right, many, many Protestant churches have prostituted themselves and many have aligned themselves with the Church Of Rome through the (apostate) World Council Of Churches.But when I read Revelation's description, it seems clear that it is speaking about a specific one, at a specific location (7 hills) with a specific mark on its…[Read more]

Hi Karmarie,I am glad you did not ask about “antichrist” or “the antichrist”, but you were specific … as there is a first beast, a second beast, and it is the second one that becomes the false prophet.  We are talking about the False Prophet being the Vatican and it's hierarchy, and this same organization being the harlot church.  As you may r…[Read more]

Karmarie,We agreed that if a pope died and an image was made of that dead one, and it could speak, and men followed it that would convince you that The Church of Rome is the great harlot church described in Revelation.I also asked if one claimed to be “God on Earth”, that would also convince you.  I appreciated your no nonsense reply.  You said: “…[Read more]

Hi Karmarie,Thanks for clearing up that part about two thirds following a speaking image of a dead pope etc..  “Saint” Cyril had me going for awhile, as I couldn't find anything in the Bible like what he claimed.THE CHURCH OF ROME CLAIMS THAT IT NEVER CHANGESThe true Christianity of Jesus and His early chruches was fomulated and complete during…[Read more]

The video that Ed J presented is by the Adventists, so that would jib with what you remember.

Yes Ed … very good presentation by Steve Wohlberg.  I have his book.I would consider it a “mini miracle” if all three, Ed J, George and Selah all agreed on this one interpretation!

Hi karmarie,”Wow Selah, two thirds of mankind = 66.6, could it mean anything?”No, I do not believe there is any significance in two thirds = 66.6 except when pope John Paul II was elected by the required vote of 66.6% of the 111 cardinals present that day.two thirds of 111 = 74Jesus was “numbered” with the transgressors.Jesus = 74Lucifer = 74

What is my understanding of the 70 weeks?It is finished.  There is no “gap” and Daniel 9:27 is Jesus Christ … not some antichrist.I believe what Christians have always believed about it, “prior” to John Darby's “spin”, and his futuristic scenario.As I noted to Karmarie, you can read Mauro's book free at http://www.historicism last days.  “The Seventy W…[Read more]

Hi Karmarie… it is said that you are what you read.It appears that a lot of your reading is based upon your interest in what Roman Catholic writers from the past had to say.Do you think they would be critical of their own church if heresies had crept into it?I would suggest that you try to balance your reading and examine what Protestant writers…[Read more]

That is true T, that is true.

Hi Karmarie, If that is an example of early church writings, I would be hesitant about other of their claims.There are scripture passages that talk about “one third”  Rev 8,9 Satan and his one third angels and another passage in Rev 12:4, but none that connects one third or two thirds to an image.I think some of those “saints” may have had vivid…[Read more]

Hi Karmarie … two thirds … like 66.6Could you give me your scripture passage that connects two thirds of mankind with worshiping the image?  Just spent half and hour going through all 22 chapters but must have missed it.