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Resting
ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 26 2014,17:13) Quote (Resting @ June 26 2014,16:21) Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2014,08:51) Quote (Resting @ June 26 2014,08:29) Quote (Wakeup @ June 25 2014,21:22) Quote (Resting @ June 25 2014,18:56) Quote Resting. Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which
***he deceived them that had received the mark of the
beast***,
***and them that worshipped HIS image***.
***THESE BOTH*** (BOTH = TWO).
(10 HORNED BEAST AND F. PROPHET).
***were cast alive***
***into a lake of fire burning with brimstone***.The ten horned beast consists of many people.
Quote 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first,
***and that *man* of sin be revealed***,
***the son of perdition***; (MAN; NOT MEN).The endtimes son of perdition is a number of men.
Quote Satan the red dragon does not only deceive *some men*. Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent,
***called the Devil, and Satan***,
*****which deceiveth the whole world*****:
***he was cast out into the earth***,
***and his angels were cast out with him***.The great dragon is made up of a number of men too.
The tale of the dragon is the false prophets (plural)
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Resting.Can you show me the scriptures.
wakeup.
You know the scriptures but you have yet to see into them properly.This is because God has hidden the truth from the eyes of the anti-christs so they can not know it is talking about them (not you)
The epistle of 1 John describes the false prophets adequately and it is that men begin with God in having ther eyes opened to Him and then go and do their own thing.
You know this, and that is where the spirit of anti-Christ resides- among the believers.
The evidences of the anti-Christ spirit are seen among the churches in the form of lying signs and wonders like as B Hinn etc. and the call down the fire groups, who may have started off with the Lord or not but hold back from giving their life to Christ.
However the anti-Christ spirit is not only that type for those who say Israel of the middle east is the gathering of Gods people and who support their dispossessing of the other people, are also into the spirit of anti-Christ.
Then we have those who claim Islam is the beast. They have no idea that Islam was never of God in the first place that they should fall away from God.
The Kings of OT Israel and Judah from Solomon on describe this.
It is before our very eyes that the anti-Christ churches are fallen into making themselves like the first beast and are behind the so called democracying of the world which image they worship.
Democracy is the will of the people who love the age and all things of it. It is an excuse to be capitalist.
The end of Daniel ch 11 gives us their description very well.
The love of money is the root of all sorts of evil.
One can not serve two masters.
Res.
Resting.You know there is a great falling away coming,
but obviously not your church.
Your church will not take the mark of the beast,
because it is not a physical mark.You still will be able to buy and sell;
with the chip in your hand.
Because that is not the mark.
Because that is for a good cause.wakeup.
You have no idea, Wakeup.The signs of the anti-Christ spirit are everywhere in the churches today..
The signs of the first beast are everywhere today but you can not see them.
If you know it all then you can not be shown anything.
Other people reading might understand.
Res.
Resting.There have been many false prophets since time began.
The son of perdition is Satan's own son.
He will be revealed very soon.
The ten kings are here but not in the open.Plotting to build
a one world system.They will agree with each other to start the one world
system;(rev 17:13) just as the kingdom of Nimrod,called BABEL.
All with one believe and monetary system,and one religion.
And that is to worship the false prophet as god.
He will sit in the temple of God,calling himself god.Anyone who refuse will be killed, or can not buy or sell.
No bank account, no job, no nothing.wakeup.
This verse says you are mistaken about what seems to you to be so simple which men have had the same views as yours for over a hundred years that I know of.Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand.
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June 26, 2014 at 5:24 am#389975ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 26 2014,10:36) Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2014,09:56) Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2014,09:00) Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2014,04:52) Wakeup, time for you to progress to solid food.
Edj.Knowing all feast days is not having solid food.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Perhaps I have not made myself clear, knowing when the feast days occur
is Not what's important to know, but in knowing what the feast's represent.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Edj.I understood,but prophecy is there for us to study
to understand.wakeup.
you need more than study–Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand.
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June 26, 2014 at 5:21 am#389974ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 26 2014,08:51) Quote (Resting @ June 26 2014,08:29) Quote (Wakeup @ June 25 2014,21:22) Quote (Resting @ June 25 2014,18:56) Quote Resting. Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which
***he deceived them that had received the mark of the
beast***,
***and them that worshipped HIS image***.
***THESE BOTH*** (BOTH = TWO).
(10 HORNED BEAST AND F. PROPHET).
***were cast alive***
***into a lake of fire burning with brimstone***.The ten horned beast consists of many people.
Quote 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first,
***and that *man* of sin be revealed***,
***the son of perdition***; (MAN; NOT MEN).The endtimes son of perdition is a number of men.
Quote Satan the red dragon does not only deceive *some men*. Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent,
***called the Devil, and Satan***,
*****which deceiveth the whole world*****:
***he was cast out into the earth***,
***and his angels were cast out with him***.The great dragon is made up of a number of men too.
The tale of the dragon is the false prophets (plural)
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Resting.Can you show me the scriptures.
wakeup.
You know the scriptures but you have yet to see into them properly.This is because God has hidden the truth from the eyes of the anti-christs so they can not know it is talking about them (not you)
The epistle of 1 John describes the false prophets adequately and it is that men begin with God in having ther eyes opened to Him and then go and do their own thing.
You know this, and that is where the spirit of anti-Christ resides- among the believers.
The evidences of the anti-Christ spirit are seen among the churches in the form of lying signs and wonders like as B Hinn etc. and the call down the fire groups, who may have started off with the Lord or not but hold back from giving their life to Christ.
However the anti-Christ spirit is not only that type for those who say Israel of the middle east is the gathering of Gods people and who support their dispossessing of the other people, are also into the spirit of anti-Christ.
Then we have those who claim Islam is the beast. They have no idea that Islam was never of God in the first place that they should fall away from God.
The Kings of OT Israel and Judah from Solomon on describe this.
It is before our very eyes that the anti-Christ churches are fallen into making themselves like the first beast and are behind the so called democracying of the world which image they worship.
Democracy is the will of the people who love the age and all things of it. It is an excuse to be capitalist.
The end of Daniel ch 11 gives us their description very well.
The love of money is the root of all sorts of evil.
One can not serve two masters.
Res.
Resting.You know there is a great falling away coming,
but obviously not your church.
Your church will not take the mark of the beast,
because it is not a physical mark.You still will be able to buy and sell;
with the chip in your hand.
Because that is not the mark.
Because that is for a good cause.wakeup.
You have no idea, Wakeup.The signs of the anti-Christ spirit are everywhere in the churches today..
The signs of the first beast are everywhere today but you can not see them.
If you know it all then you can not be shown anything.
Other people reading might understand.
Res.
June 25, 2014 at 9:29 pm#389898ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 25 2014,21:22) Quote (Resting @ June 25 2014,18:56) Quote Resting. Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which
***he deceived them that had received the mark of the
beast***,
***and them that worshipped HIS image***.
***THESE BOTH*** (BOTH = TWO).
(10 HORNED BEAST AND F. PROPHET).
***were cast alive***
***into a lake of fire burning with brimstone***.The ten horned beast consists of many people.
Quote 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first,
***and that *man* of sin be revealed***,
***the son of perdition***; (MAN; NOT MEN).The endtimes son of perdition is a number of men.
Quote Satan the red dragon does not only deceive *some men*. Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent,
***called the Devil, and Satan***,
*****which deceiveth the whole world*****:
***he was cast out into the earth***,
***and his angels were cast out with him***.The great dragon is made up of a number of men too.
The tale of the dragon is the false prophets (plural)
Res.
Resting.Can you show me the scriptures.
wakeup.
You know the scriptures but you have yet to see into them properly.This is because God has hidden the truth from the eyes of the anti-christs so they can not know it is talking about them (not you)
The epistle of 1 John describes the false prophets adequately and it is that men begin with God in having ther eyes opened to Him and then go and do their own thing.
You know this, and that is where the spirit of anti-Christ resides- among the believers.
The evidences of the anti-Christ spirit are seen among the churches in the form of lying signs and wonders like as B Hinn etc. and the call down the fire groups, who may have started off with the Lord or not but hold back from giving their life to Christ.
However the anti-Christ spirit is not only that type for those who say Israel of the middle east is the gathering of Gods people and who support their dispossessing of the other people, are also into the spirit of anti-Christ.
Then we have those who claim Islam is the beast. They have no idea that Islam was never of God in the first place that they should fall away from God.
The Kings of OT Israel and Judah from Solomon on describe this.
It is before our very eyes that the anti-Christ churches are fallen into making themselves like the first beast and are behind the so called democracying of the world which image they worship.
Democracy is the will of the people who love the age and all things of it. It is an excuse to be capitalist.
The end of Daniel ch 11 gives us their description very well.
The love of money is the root of all sorts of evil.
One can not serve two masters.
Res.
June 25, 2014 at 7:56 am#389838ParticipantQuote Resting. Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which
***he deceived them that had received the mark of the
beast***,
***and them that worshipped HIS image***.
***THESE BOTH*** (BOTH = TWO).
(10 HORNED BEAST AND F. PROPHET).
***were cast alive***
***into a lake of fire burning with brimstone***.The ten horned beast consists of many people.
Quote 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first,
***and that *man* of sin be revealed***,
***the son of perdition***; (MAN; NOT MEN).The endtimes son of perdition is a number of men.
Quote Satan the red dragon does not only deceive *some men*. Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent,
***called the Devil, and Satan***,
*****which deceiveth the whole world*****:
***he was cast out into the earth***,
***and his angels were cast out with him***.The great dragon is made up of a number of men too.
The tale of the dragon is the false prophets (plural)
Res.
June 25, 2014 at 2:33 am#389815ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 25 2014,00:19) Quote (Resting @ June 24 2014,20:59) Quote (Wakeup @ June 19 2014,15:39) Quote (Resting @ June 19 2014,08:27) Quote (Wakeup @ June 17 2014,21:59) Quote (Resting @ June 17 2014,20:26) Quote (Wakeup @ June 17 2014,17:08) Revelation 19:20
***And the beast was taken,***and with him the false prophet*** ***that wrought miracles before him***,
***with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast***,
***and them that worshipped his image***.***These both** were cast alive into a lake of fire burning
with brimstone***.Beast and false prophet. Not false prophets.
wakeup.
So you are saying the first beast of Rev.13 is one person,and the second beast of Rev.13 is one person.
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Resting.1.The beast is the kingdom,consisting of a system,
and ten kings
2.The false prophet is one men.He rules them all.
3.The kingdom is ruled by the false prophet.
4.The ten kings have chosen Him to rule the kingdom.
5.The beast and the false prophet will be cast into the lake
of fire.The beast consisting of ten kings,and its whole system;
and the false prophet; the chief.wakeup.
Wakeup.You must claim the Bride is one person too by your logic.
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The bride is another topic.1.The beast that came out of the sea,is a kingdom;
and has ten kings. A conglomerate of ten kings.2. The second beast came out of the earth,he is the false
prophet that will take control,of that kingdom.
He will rule over the ten kings.3.He is also called :The son of perdition with all the lying
wonders; and he call himself god.2thess 2.4.The first beast, and the second beast, (the false prophet) will be cast into the lake of fire at the coming.
wakeup.
No,because the second beast is like unto the first beast.
One of the (7)heads of the first beast is healed of its deadly wound,
The second beast has two horns, not one.
As the first beast has a multitude of peoples so does the second beast.
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Resting.Revelation 19:20
***And the beast was taken***, (THE 10 HORNED BEAST).
***and with him the false prophet*** (ONE MAN).
***that wrought miracles before him***,
***with which *HE* deceived them that had received the
mark of the beast***,
***and them that worshipped *HIS* image***.
***These *BOTH* were cast alive into a lake of fire burning
with brimstone***.
(BOTH;THE 10HORNED BEAST, AND THE FALSE PROPHET)THE FALSE PROPHET CAME OUT OF THE EARTH, AND HAS
TWO HORNS. HE IS IN CHARGE OF THE *SECULAR* AND THE *SPIRITUAL*.(IN CHARGE OF BOTH).
THE MAN THAT CALLED HIMSELF GOD.wakeup.
The false prophet is not one man.The Bride of Christ is not one woman either.
You have a view and no scripture to support it.
Mat 24:11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many.
You tend toward a view that the calling down of fire from heaven is a religious power but it is not, for it does not deceive the secular, but would only deceive a small part of the worlds people.
The end times deception is of sciences and material powers, and the image that men make is that of political, not something religious.
You are deceived about this already.
You carry the view of the deceived religious world.
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June 24, 2014 at 9:59 am#389770ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 19 2014,15:39) Quote (Resting @ June 19 2014,08:27) Quote (Wakeup @ June 17 2014,21:59) Quote (Resting @ June 17 2014,20:26) Quote (Wakeup @ June 17 2014,17:08) Revelation 19:20
***And the beast was taken,***and with him the false prophet*** ***that wrought miracles before him***,
***with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast***,
***and them that worshipped his image***.***These both** were cast alive into a lake of fire burning
with brimstone***.Beast and false prophet. Not false prophets.
wakeup.
So you are saying the first beast of Rev.13 is one person,and the second beast of Rev.13 is one person.
Res.
Resting.1.The beast is the kingdom,consisting of a system,
and ten kings
2.The false prophet is one men.He rules them all.
3.The kingdom is ruled by the false prophet.
4.The ten kings have chosen Him to rule the kingdom.
5.The beast and the false prophet will be cast into the lake
of fire.The beast consisting of ten kings,and its whole system;
and the false prophet; the chief.wakeup.
Wakeup.You must claim the Bride is one person too by your logic.
Res.
The bride is another topic.1.The beast that came out of the sea,is a kingdom;
and has ten kings. A conglomerate of ten kings.2. The second beast came out of the earth,he is the false
prophet that will take control,of that kingdom.
He will rule over the ten kings.3.He is also called :The son of perdition with all the lying
wonders; and he call himself god.2thess 2.4.The first beast, and the second beast, (the false prophet) will be cast into the lake of fire at the coming.
wakeup.
No,because the second beast is like unto the first beast.
One of the (7)heads of the first beast is healed of its deadly wound,
The second beast has two horns, not one.
As the first beast has a multitude of peoples so does the second beast.
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June 18, 2014 at 9:30 pm#389291ParticipantQuote (journey42 @ June 18 2014,22:52) Hi Resting, There are two beasts into the lake of fire.
1. The Beast coming out of the sea
2. The Beast coming out of the earth
Revelation 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.Revelation 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet (NO KINGDOM YET, DURING JOHN'S DAY); but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. (3 1/2 years)
Revelation 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
Quote Where are the scriptures describing the second beast being one man?
2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Daniel 7:20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
Daniel 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
(THIS TELLS ME HE IS A JEW, BECAUSE WHEN GOD SPEAKS OF “FATHERS” HE IS ALWAYS REFERRING TO ISRAEL)
You have the a head of the first beast as being the second beast.that is incorrect.
I will be away for a while.
June 18, 2014 at 9:27 pm#389290ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 17 2014,21:59) Quote (Resting @ June 17 2014,20:26) Quote (Wakeup @ June 17 2014,17:08) Revelation 19:20
***And the beast was taken,***and with him the false prophet*** ***that wrought miracles before him***,
***with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast***,
***and them that worshipped his image***.***These both** were cast alive into a lake of fire burning
with brimstone***.Beast and false prophet. Not false prophets.
wakeup.
So you are saying the first beast of Rev.13 is one person,and the second beast of Rev.13 is one person.
Res.
Resting.1.The beast is the kingdom,consisting of a system,
and ten kings
2.The false prophet is one men.He rules them all.
3.The kingdom is ruled by the false prophet.
4.The ten kings have chosen Him to rule the kingdom.
5.The beast and the false prophet will be cast into the lake
of fire.The beast consisting of ten kings,and its whole system;
and the false prophet; the chief.wakeup.
Wakeup.You must claim the Bride is one person too by your logic.
Res.
June 17, 2014 at 9:26 am#389163ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 17 2014,17:08) Revelation 19:20
***And the beast was taken,***and with him the false prophet*** ***that wrought miracles before him***,
***with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast***,
***and them that worshipped his image***.***These both** were cast alive into a lake of fire burning
with brimstone***.Beast and false prophet. Not false prophets.
wakeup.
So you are saying the first beast of Rev.13 is one person,and the second beast of Rev.13 is one person.
Res.
June 17, 2014 at 4:41 am#389150ParticipantQuote (journey42 @ June 17 2014,11:59) Hi Resting That's right, and I am not implying that. I said the 2nd beast who comes up out of the earth is a man, the false prophet.
He, the false prophet is telling us to worship the first beast, before him (the 10 horns) who come out out of the 7th head. (the last head), this kingdom. This last kingdom/empire is the head that was wounded and healed. We are still under the British Empire today. Many do not realise it, as they rule behind the scenes. The british empire was flattened during the 2nd world war, but have come up strong again. They are so strong and powerful we don't even know they are there. They make our laws, and change our laws. They will change the laws again to a new system, but before they can bring in the new system, they must crash this existing one first.
So, him, the false prophet telling us to worship the first beast before him just simply means to obey their laws, and new system. This new system will issue everyman with an identification number, the Mark of the Beast. The first beast introduces it as a good solution and system, the second beast enforces it, because by the time he is raised to full power, he has the authority to give the command.
The first beast (the 10) have their armies, and police. They have the power in their hands to put us in jail, or kill us for not obeying their laws. We who refuse will be seen as trouble makers. We will refuse the mark, and go hungry. Our children will starve. We will be homeless. They will be hunting us down like sheep for the slaughter. We will be seen as the scum of the earth. Poor, destitute, dirty, under privileged. They will make up all sorts of lies about us, that we are neglecting our children etc. The people will not want to see us in their streets, as we will be looked upon as a type of pollution. If they take us in, we must go knowing they falsely accused Christ before us, and took his freedom away also. We will receive our reward when Christ returns. Everlasting life. Christ will have great revenge for what they did to us and all those christians before us, and they of Babylon who hated God and his children will surely pay for their crimes.
In the end, we will be the better ones off, for we will get our lives back, but they will face the lake of fire.
Journey,Where are the scriptures describing the second beast being one man?
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June 16, 2014 at 10:51 pm#389116ParticipantJourney,
The second beast can not be a head which was healed of the first beast.
Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.Res.
June 15, 2014 at 2:03 am#388972ParticipantQuote (journey42 @ June 15 2014,01:03) Quote It is one of the horns of the ten of the first beast which is healed, not the two horns of the second beast. Is it not so?
Resting, it is not so.Daniel 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
There's two beasts described in Rev. The first beast coming out of the sea consists of 10 kings. The second beast coming out of the earth one man, the false prophet.
The two beasts work together. The 10 kings are ruling the empire of the last days. They have not shown themselves yet, but are here at work planning, scheming, controlling behind the scenes.
When God says the time is right, he will allow the 10 kings to fulfil prophesy. They will introduce new harsher laws. They will rule by themselves for only a short while, but soon after that the false prophet will emerge. He will be their leader. He will be all for them, and they will be all for him. Together they will take action to enforce the Mark of the Beast on all.
He is called the False prophet because he poses as a prophet, a spiritual leader, then he will pose as God. He has the power to persecute anyone who refuses to take the Mark of the Beast which the beast (10 kings) before him have already set up.So you see he is in charge of the spiritual, and the secular. For somebody to have absolute power over every single person on this earth and persecute them if they do not obey the new laws is a secular leader. For someone to cause every single person on this earth to worship the first beast (obey) and pose as God during the meantime doing miracles is a spiritual leader.
When the False prophet emerges, that 7th kingdom will turn into the eighth kingdom.The image in Daniel describes the major empires starting from the head, Babylon.
His breast and arms of silver is the Medo/Persian empire.
His belly and thighs of brass was the Grecian empire.
Well we all know what happened after that. Alexander died, and his kingdom was divided between his four generals. Out of one of them came the Roman Empire. It ruled the longest, and goes all the way down the legs made of Iron.
By the time we get to the feet, a different body part, it is mixed with iron and clay. The iron is there (Rome) but mixed with clay, other weaker nations. This would be the empire we have today which came out of Rome, the British empire.
The ten toes are part of the feet.Daniel 2:41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
It does not say 10 toes, but we can count how many toes there should be. There are 10. So the 10 kings are this last lot, right at the end of the image. It's this last empire that will be destroyed. And out of this last empire will emerge their new leader, the false prophet,…the little horn, the second beast with the two horns. He is one with the 10. They work together, and we get this from the other scriptures to see the picture more clearly.
I must have missed this page.I can see the little horn comes out from among the ten kings, and that says to me that the Jews and the RCC with fallen evangelicals are the second beast.
It is one of the heads of the ten kings which men worship as god.
Further to that , it is one of the ten kings who is the little horn because it is one them which head is healed and it can only mean the like of Ahab as king over the ten while the two heads of the second beast are like a lamb, but of course are goats.
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The scripture–
Rev 13:11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon.
Rev 13:12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.June 15, 2014 at 1:55 am#388971ParticipantQuote (journey42 @ June 14 2014,16:38) Quote (Resting @ June 14 2014,13:15) Wakeup, The second beast has two horns, not one.
How do you account for that.
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RestingWakeup already explained it to you.
The vision in Daniel is a little horn coming up. Obviously means LEADER, coming up out of the 10.
The vision is Rev is a leader with 2 horns. This little horn has 2 horns now. He is a world leader, and a spiritual leader now. He is in charge of both.
Journey,Are you saying the second beast is one of the ten horns of the first beast of Rev.13.
The second beast is like unto the first beast so how can the second beast be like one of the horns of the first beast?
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June 14, 2014 at 6:34 am#388903ParticipantQuote (journey42 @ June 14 2014,16:38) Quote (Resting @ June 14 2014,13:15) Wakeup, The second beast has two horns, not one.
How do you account for that.
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RestingWakeup already explained it to you.
The vision in Daniel is a little horn coming up. Obviously means LEADER, coming up out of the 10.
The vision is Rev is a leader with 2 horns. This little horn has 2 horns now. He is a world leader, and a spiritual leader now. He is in charge of both.
It is one of the horns of the ten of the first beast which is healed, not the two horns of the second beast.Is it not so?
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June 14, 2014 at 2:30 am#388845ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 12 2014,18:37) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2014,10:44) Hi,
The Spirit of God reveals the deeper meaning of the scriptures.
But till then we have to deal with those who cannot see beyond the obvious meanings of the printed words.
Saint Nick.This is obviously speaking of Nick.
He is only full of claims.
He claims the chickens before they have hatched.
He also caims that he has been given the HS, and is now save and well: and there is more;he also claims that he is already born again;but still in the flesh.He is so sure that he will be born once more in the resurrection. That makes him a saint now.
Saint Nick. I call him saint Nicolas;or santa clause.That is his new name. All can call him satans claws.Dont get upset saint Nick. Dont forget you are a saint.
wakeup.
Please do not ridicule.Maybe Christ will be offended.
Res.
June 14, 2014 at 2:15 am#388842ParticipantWakeup,
The second beast has two horns, not one.
How do you account for that.
Res.
June 13, 2014 at 8:52 am#388797ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 12 2014,20:50) Quote (Resting @ June 12 2014,19:43) Quote (Wakeup @ June 12 2014,16:06) Quote (Resting @ June 12 2014,13:40) Quote (Wakeup @ June 12 2014,12:16) Quote (Resting @ June 12 2014,08:41) The image of the beast is what people are told to make. Rev 13:14 And he deceives those who dwell on the earth—by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived.
Rev 13:15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.What is this image they make?
Res.
HI Keras.I believe that this image is not a physical thing.
Like a statue or something.
The image is the system;the rules and laws, and regulations.
breaking the rules will cause death.wakeup.
Who is Keras?Are you saying the image is of something which had a wound with a sword but does live (again), but is not physical.
What are the rules of the system and who is it being forced upon.
Res.
Sorry Resting; I mean you Resting.The beast that was wounded is a physical empire;and has a system,rules and laws.
Anyone that will not submit to the rules and laws will be killed.The image consists of rules and regulations,and laws.wakeup.
The next question —Are the rules and regulations forced upon the church in one way concerning worship,or in an economic way, or both.
Those who dwell on the earth.
Is this a spiritual description? for where else would they be if it was physical?
Res.
Resting.When the beast is in power;there will be no churches,
or anything of worship.
All must worship Him as God.(the false prophet).
Forced to take the mark, or one can not survive.
There will not be any christians roaming free;
unless they have worshippped the beast and the false prophet;by taking the mark.Matthew 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
wakeup.
Are you saying that there will be no worship of God by the Jews, and by Moslems, or even by the RCC.Can we ever see the day when all of them will cease their worship?
How do you see the second beast of Rev.13
Is it not out of the land and therefore of religion?
Res.
June 12, 2014 at 8:43 am#388602ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 12 2014,16:06) Quote (Resting @ June 12 2014,13:40) Quote (Wakeup @ June 12 2014,12:16) Quote (Resting @ June 12 2014,08:41) The image of the beast is what people are told to make. Rev 13:14 And he deceives those who dwell on the earth—by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived.
Rev 13:15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.What is this image they make?
Res.
HI Keras.I believe that this image is not a physical thing.
Like a statue or something.
The image is the system;the rules and laws, and regulations.
breaking the rules will cause death.wakeup.
Who is Keras?Are you saying the image is of something which had a wound with a sword but does live (again), but is not physical.
What are the rules of the system and who is it being forced upon.
Res.
Sorry Resting; I mean you Resting.The beast that was wounded is a physical empire;and has a system,rules and laws.
Anyone that will not submit to the rules and laws will be killed.The image consists of rules and regulations,and laws.wakeup.
The next question —Are the rules and regulations forced upon the church in one way concerning worship,or in an economic way, or both.
Those who dwell on the earth.
Is this a spiritual description? for where else would they be if it was physical?
Res.
June 12, 2014 at 2:40 am#388515ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 12 2014,12:16) Quote (Resting @ June 12 2014,08:41) The image of the beast is what people are told to make. Rev 13:14 And he deceives those who dwell on the earth—by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived.
Rev 13:15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.What is this image they make?
Res.
HI Keras.I believe that this image is not a physical thing.
Like a statue or something.
The image is the system;the rules and laws, and regulations.
breaking the rules will cause death.wakeup.
Who is Keras?Are you saying the image is of something which had a wound with a sword but does live (again), but is not physical.
What are the rules of the system and who is it being forced upon.
Res.
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