Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 5 months ago
@NickHassan
The Word that was with God was a person, the person of Jesus-the Only begotten Son who much later became a man. He wasn’t always a man. You would do well to be able to discern between all who are called theos and make a distinction between who has dominion over all creation and who does not. Rev 5 tells you that two have dominion over…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 5 months ago
you said:
The Lord God of Israel is the Lord of the angelic hosts in the OT.
The anointed man from Nazareth is now given this authority.
Jehovah is the Lord God of Israel and Jehovah is both the God of gods and the Lord of lords. Jesus is the theos who is the Lord of lords. The Father is the theos who is the God of gods.
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Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 5 months ago
Why do you ask that?
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 5 months ago
@NickHassan
you say:But he is not our God
Your Jesus is a created being which leads you to the conclusion that he is not your god. If that were true, that Jesus was merely a created being, you would do well because we are not to worship the creation but instead we are to worship the creator.
The Jesus I believe in is Jehovah of hosts from…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 5 months ago
@NickHassan
you asked:Jesus went to His God and our God. Jn 20.17
Who did he ascend to?
The God we call our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ ascended to the God we call God, our Father.
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 5 months ago
you said:
We worship one God the Father.
Not those who are WITH HIM.
You will sooner or later worship the God whom is called our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ along with God the Father. Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is LORD to the glory of God the Father.
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 5 months ago
@NickHassan
you said:The way to truth is not though weak theology
True…you ought to study God’s Word. In it there is truth.
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 5 months ago
@NickHassan
Jesus says:
Father, just as you are in me and I am in you.Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 5 months ago
@NickHassan
you said:Whatever is OF GOD
is NOT GOD
The true eternal offspring is the same kind of being as His Father…and thus the Son is the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, the invisible God…The only begotten God has come to explain God, His Father.
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 5 months ago
@NickHassan
you said:We have one God, the father.
True, and He is with the person who is called theos in scripture, and this theos is who the Christians refer to as our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 5 months ago
@NickHassan
you said:The Lord of Hosts is the father.
Not in Isaiah
Isaiah 8:12-15
11 For Jehovah spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me not to walk in the way of this people, saying,
12 Say ye not, A conspiracy, concerning all whereof this people shall say, A conspiracy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be in dread thereof .
13 Je…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 5 months ago
@NickHassan
you asked:Indeed the Word was with God.
Was Jesus???
Yes, before He was given the name Jesus, He was God with God in the beginning.
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 5 months ago
Sons can always exist?
It is a strange concept to think that anyone had always existed but how would a person exist as Father if there were no offspring always belonging to Him? If the Son did not always exist, the Father did not always exist as Father.
There was only one son that always existed and it is the theos who is the…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 5 months ago
@NickHassan
No other man existed as Jehovah of hosts or anything else before conception. That is only an accomplishment for Jehovah of hosts that Peter identifies as Jesus.Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 5 months ago
@NickHassan
Only the LORD can adjust your thinking so that you may know and know about Jehovah.Matt 11:27…no one knows the Father except the Son…
To know an always existent Father would require an always existing relationship with an always existing Son. There was a whole lot of existing going on before the Son became flesh.
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 5 months ago
you say:
Becoming an expert about God saves nobody.
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.<span class=”p”>
</span>It is evident by this verse that “KNOWING” the only true God and Jesus Christ IS ETERNAL LIFE. Being an expert about God is certainly a worthy goal and is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 5 months ago
@NickHassan
Do you think it to be theory or truth that there are two persons who are called theos in scripture and are acknowledged to have dominion over all created things for ever and ever?Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 5 months ago
What term would you use to represent that authority that has dominion over all created things in heaven, on the earth and under the earth, Nick?
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 5 months ago
Why would anyone have a problem with the term godhead for two persons who are called theos and share dominion over all creation? No, Nick, no confusion, Rev 5 makes it crystal clear that there are two persons, not just one, that share the dominion over all created things and the two are both referred to as theos.
Thanks for the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 5 months ago
So every THEOS can find a role in your order of things.
Only two who we need to follow, matter to me, Nick. The Father and the Son.
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