Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 27 2006,01:31)Hi m42, Many call him Lord Lord but are not known by him. That is the experience that really matters.I agree. RElationship, expecially the one described by th analogy of the Bridegroom and the Bride does not happen over night. As in all relationships it is built thru love relationship with Him. I agree that…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 26 2006,21:56)Hi M42,Obedience makes him our Lord Luke 6:46And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?Lk 19 27But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.NHWe may be arguing simantics.I was refering to Christ being our Lord at the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 26 2006,21:52)Quote The bible was written through men by the Spirit of God, inspired as to the choice of every word and every jot and tittle. It is not just a collection of HUMAN experiences and the HUMAN recollection of those events. If it is we ought not believe it. Men have every right to twist it and abuse it if…[Read more]

Have you ever experianced love or anger or any emotion. Can you see them?

Faith, belief, trust, obediance are all experiances. they are actions of the will and heart of man. Do you not believe in the free will of man?When in the process of obediance to God you are experiancing obediance.You just took a breath, you are experiancing breathing. You typed your last post. you are experiancing posting on this forum.. An…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 26 2006,17:15)Hi m42, I do not think we share a similar foundation with regard to scripture.You say”The Bible is a testament or an intelectual discription of an experiantial event.”The bible was written through men by the Spirit of God, inspired as to the choice of every word and every jot and tittle. It is not just a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 26 2006,03:27)hmmmLet me clarify my point a bit more.The Bible is a testament or an intelectual discription of an experiantial event.the event may be Holy because it involves God. It is His deity and Holiness that lends itself to the event. A person can have a spiritual event (wrong spirit) without God. those events are…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 26 2006,00:32)Hi M42, That is one approach but most who come here are quite happy to receive feedback on their words. All posts can be replied to by all and I must say I am surprised that you demand accountability from others for their words but become sullenly unresponsive when your own words are scrutinised. Surely you…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 25 2006,21:22)Hi m42You say”The written word of God has no intrinsic holiness in it. ” How odd it would be if God calls oil, places, prophets, garments, children, kisses HOLY but not the Words from His holy mouth.But of course He does.Romans 1:2(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)Romans…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 25 2006,21:22)Hi m42You say”The written word of God has no intrinsic holiness in it. ” How odd it would be if God calls oil, places, prophets, garments, children, kisses HOLY but not the Words from His holy mouth.But of course He does.Romans 1:2(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)Romans…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 24 2006,05:37)m42I dont think this forum is meant to teach Sonship. This forum is meant to indoctrinate believers and lead them into a version of Arianism.Maybe you dont see the severity of trying to change the very Nature of who God is, but I do.You say…Quote They are more interested in proving what they think…[Read more]

Quote (Cult Buster @ Dec. 25 2006,10:05)Jesus is GodHeb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Col 2:9  For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodilyPhi 2:5  Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus Phi 2:6  Who being in the for…[Read more]

WJ,I have a couple of questions for you. I trust you are wekk versed in scriptue enough that I need not list dozens of verses to explain what I mean.1. Do you believe we are to become like Jesus?2. How does that work? In otherwords are we just to act like Jesus or is our character and motives changed to be like Jesus.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 24 2006,05:00)Quote If you will reread my post you will see that I did allow for WJ's quote to be a mistake. I consider quoting from the KJV a mistake due all the wrong interpretation contained therein.WJ and I have butted heads before and it is my concerted opinion that we have an understanding that we are both…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 24 2006,05:47)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 24 2006,00:00)Quote If you will reread my post you will see that I did allow for WJ's quote to be a mistake. I consider quoting from the KJV a mistake due all the wrong interpretation contained therein.WJ and I have butted heads before and it is my concerted opinion that we…[Read more]

Perhaps a post with others hermaneutical principles will help to get things more clear.Hebrew Bible – How to do a Hebraic…[Read more]

Are you a Son/Daughter or a Slave or Observer?A son sees a father. A slave sees a master. An observer sees a point of discussion.A slave has to be ever conscious of the fact that the master of the house is all powerful and orchestrates everything by overcoming the will of the slave by his might. A son is more conscious of the love and nurturing of…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Dec. 23 2006,22:17)Wasn't trying to humiliate you M42, I thought you had wronged WJ and reacted in his defense. Although I disagreed with many of your points and wanted to voice my disagreement, the percieved treatment of WJ definitely influenced the tone of my post to you. Sorry for any offense. forgiven without reservations and…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Dec. 23 2006,20:09)Quote (music4two @ Dec. 23 2006,16:23)Quote (Is 1:18 @ Dec. 23 2006,09:09)WP and I have come to understandings before about attitudes. I am curious about your attitude. I am troubled by your preface of a believed mistake on my part. When a person says He He” when seeing what they percieve a mistake by others I…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 23 2006,20:15)Hi m42, Please can you show how these uses of “WORD” by God in scripture mean something that is planned, a thought or a purpose of God rather than an EXPRESSION of that plan or purpose. How can a plan return void to God if it has never been expressed as WORD?Jer 3 12Go and proclaim these words toward the…[Read more]