Hi Nick,First, the general baptism of the Holy Spirit did not occur till Pentacost as seen in Acts 2. John 7:39By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified.you state -We can follow a man who was changed by the baptism in the…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Mar. 07 2007,02:05)Hi M42:I'm having difficulty understanding “being filled with the Holy breath” in light of the following scriptures: “As the living Father hath sent me, and I LIVE BY THE FATHER (I understand by obedience to His Word): so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me”.  (John 6:57) And, “It is the spirit that…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Mar. 07 2007,11:05)Quote (music4two @ Mar. 06 2007,23:15)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2007,19:56)Hi Tim, Jesus was transformed and began his power ministry from the time of the Jordan and not before. In contrast to his early life from that moment onwards every word and action was the work of God in him and precious records are…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 07 2007,04:26)Hi m42,You say.”You cannot base a belief on what is not said.”  And yet you say”To this point I agree with yourconclusions, providing you are not taking the stand that Jesus was filled with the Spirit at His baptism. It is my contention that Jesus was filled with the Spirit/breath of God from birth. Several…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2007,23:25)Hi m42, You say” At His baptism Jesus was given a full measure of the anointing to do the work set for him.” Is this your understanding of the baptism in the Spirit?You still say Christ was not like to us. Are we not of the breath of God too?I have never said christ was not like us. If you remember on the…[Read more]

Still want to know if anyone on here can tell me what “Keep” means, as in keep the commandments. While you are at it perhaps you can tell me what “break” the commandments means too.A reasonable person would not assume the English words portray the exact menaing of the authors wanted to show.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2007,19:56)Hi Tim, Jesus was transformed and began his power ministry from the time of the Jordan and not before. In contrast to his early life from that moment onwards every word and action was the work of God in him and precious records are kept for our sakes.You cannot base a belief on what is not said. It does not…[Read more]

Certtainly Jesus was anointed for His public ministry at the jordon, but just as it does not say He was filled from birth, neither does it say He was filled at baptism. The fact that the holy breath decended like a dove is still not proof of filling. The fact that He did no miracles prior to His anointing for the ministry proves nothing. Miracles…[Read more]

Perhaps a look at Col 2 in context will shed some light on the subject.Col 2 1For I want you to know how great a struggle I have on your behalf and for those who are at Laodicea, and for all those who have not personally seen my face,  2that their hearts may be encouraged, having been knit together in love, and attaining to all the wealth that c…[Read more]

Quote (toteachachild @ Feb. 24 2007,11:04)Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary.  He came in the flesh, sent by His Father, and at His baptism, the Spirit of God descended upon Him like a dove.  Afterwards, He demonstrated many miracles, signs, and wonders.  Jesus never uttered the words – I am God.  He did say tha…[Read more]

Quote (Ciara 10622 @ Jan. 15 2007,08:28)  What does Doctrine mean?Doctrine means teaching.Teaching from the Hebrew perspective can be summed up in the TorahHebraic Word StudiesTorahThe Hebrew word “Torah” is usually translated into the English word “Law”. Because of this translation there is a great misunderstanding of what “Torah” truly is.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2007,21:52)Hi m42, It is the work of God to build up a relationship with us who are in His Son, infilling us with grace to make us into Christ as the inner man.If all is grace and we do not play an active role in or relationship then why does it say this —–Revelation 19:7Let us rejoice and be glad and give him…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2007,00:42)Hi kenrch,Shoot at her as much as you like.She is no friend of mine and neither is OT legalism.But do not shoot at your brother as you may be shooting at your own foot.You know what I find curious Nick? there are those who accuse others of being part of the Harlot Church and yet they constantly throw out…[Read more]

Nick,I fear you are wasting your time with those that have no desire to see beyond the English translations of scripture or learn anything new. You are also wasting your time with those who think so poorly of humanity. This is shown by the attitude they hold toward legalism.Everyone is throwing around scripture talking about keeping and breaking…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Mar. 04 2007,11:09)Thank you for that very thorough historical trail of the trinity invention music4two.Many people discredit the trinity idea with a few well known verses in the bible, me included.But you have obviously done considerable research for your book.Just one note, if this is a transcript of your book. In one place…[Read more]

Can An Immortal God Die?In this section we will investigate current and common ways in which Jesus is portrayed. As I go thru some of these quotes I would hope you would see the lack of reason or logic contained in their statements.On one of the web sites I researched I found this content, it states that Jesus is The true and living God and I…[Read more]

Quote (toteachachild @ Feb. 24 2007,11:04)Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary.  He came in the flesh, sent by His Father, and at His baptism, the Spirit of God descended upon Him like a dove.  Afterwards, He demonstrated many miracles, signs, and wonders.  Jesus never uttered the words – I am God.  He did say tha…[Read more]

Quote (Phoenix @ Mar. 03 2007,03:19)Hi M42I highly praise the man who created the website you showed us where you got your information from. Praise for all the hard work he does in his website.However, do you think his writings are valid? He isnt even a scholar. I mean at least James Strong was a Professor. And according to his concordance…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Mar. 02 2007,21:04)And what does that change?You know I posted information on here for those who might find interest. You seem to have such anger toward anyone resembling a human teacher that you imediately go to the attack. I brought in the Hebrew meanings of words not to argue with you but to add a richness to the discussion and…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Mar. 02 2007,21:25)Quote (music4two @ Mar. 02 2007,18:46)When ever I come accross a debate about the law or the commandments, I without doubt find those with legalistic Western outlooks on the subject. They seem to miss the sweetness, tenderness and fatherly aspects of a God who calls us His children.Perhaps we could benifit…[Read more]