Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 23 2010,10:41)Martian,You wrote:Quote I am making fun of the stupidity of the Preexisters.It does not sound like satire or mockery to me.  It sounds like anger that has grown from a bitter root. Mockery would be to make fun of the fact that Preexisters believe the absurdity that Jesus was born before his ancestors.  They m…[Read more]

Quote ( @ –)Martian,  So speaks the whacked. LOL

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 22 2010,17:29)Martian,  Who cares what others use to justify their beliefs, a Christian tests to see if the spirit of those beliefs is from God or not.  A Christian watches themself to ensure their own believes and actions come from God.  The bitterness and anger I hear in your words does not come from God.  Please cloth you…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 22 2010,09:00)Martian,Just because even an expert claims something is true does not mean it is. You lay out your case and allow your hearers/readers to render their judgment.  You then try to make another case to explain your viewpoint whether believe it or not.  At this point I hear you but not the evidence to support your v…[Read more]

1. Firstborn does not necessarily mean first birthed. It can be an appointed position as we know Christ was appointed to many position titles.2. Col 1 15- 17 is about Christ. The Hebrews have no concept of “creating something from nothing”. That is a Western cultural concept. Creation means to fatten or fill up. It carries the concept of bringing…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 10 2010,04:48)Quote (martian @ Oct. 10 2010,04:03)Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 09 2010,09:16)Quote (martian @ Oct. 09 2010,05:42)What's it take to get kicked off of here. You moderators would be doing me a service to do so. Kick me off and block me from getting back on.Come on get your monkeys to work and kick me off. Come on you idiots.…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 09 2010,09:16)Quote (martian @ Oct. 09 2010,05:42)What's it take to get kicked off of here. You moderators would be doing me a service to do so. Kick me off and block me from getting back on.Come on get your monkeys to work and kick me off. Come on you idiots. Do it. I dare you.Fix it so I will never be able to give into the…[Read more]

What's it take to get kicked off of here. You moderators would be doing me a service to do so. Kick me off and block me from getting back on.Come on get your monkeys to work and kick me off. Come on you idiots. Do it. I dare you.Fix it so I will never be able to give into the temptation to do this sin any more.Come on you monkey ministry.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 29 2010,13:46)On the contrary Irene, Martian's post deserves a pat on the back, not a tile. By his failure to respond to solid points, he has by default admitted that he can't.He will not ever be able to explain how someone who already was a human being can be made into one, and so his ONLY defense is to run and hide from…[Read more]

Thanks to all for their kind words. Blessings to all and good night

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 30 2010,09:06)Hey MartianMay the Lord be with you. We will see you again when you feel like being entertained. WJIt's true. It was becoming less and less entertaining and I could expect nothing else from it. But thank you for your kind words.

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 28 2010,15:55)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 28 2010,15:43)'Ed J,The word beginning is vague as it is a descriptive word.  The something that is being described is simply not mentioned in John 15:26-27 and therefore is implied.  John's First Century readers most likely knew what Jesus was speaking of but you seemed to have missed it.  …[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 28 2010,13:55)Quote (martian @ Sep. 28 2010,00:25)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 27 2010,07:04)Quote (martian @ Sep. 26 2010,09:42)There seem to be a lot of threads that ask if something is implied. The Dictionary defines “implied” as: to involve or indicate by inference, association, or necessary consequence rather than by direct sta…[Read more]

Mike,I did not read your posts and have no intention of doing so. Honest Bible discussion is a loss with you. I have nothing more to say to you. In fact since all of the moderators are cultists on this site, I may leave altogether. Have your kingdom. It will be short enough.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 27 2010,14:02)Quote (martian @ Sep. 25 2010,01:33)BTW A big part of the reason I get tiles is because one of the moderators is a pre-exister.All 3 of us moderators are “pre-existers” Martian.  And none of us are trinitarians, yet you don't see WJ getting blocks.  And just so you know, I have never personally reported any o…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 27 2010,13:50)Quote (martian @ Sep. 25 2010,03:28)If a person does a dishonest thing is he dishonest? I have proven many times that your interpretation processes are dishonest.PROVEN?  How?  Do you think I look up the words and then post DIFFERENT definitions than the one's the experts give?  Wouldn't you be able to ju…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 27 2010,13:57)Hi Martian,I'll give you the same challenge I gave Gene earlier today.  Tell me ONE single action you took today in behalf of furthering Jesus' teachings that you would not have been able to do if Jesus pre-existed.Can you still follow Jesus' teaching to give to the poor if Jesus pre-existed?Can you still…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Sep. 27 2010,17:30)mean no disrespect but your posts show a lack of education in any form of proper interpretation principles. I am sorry that you have not had the opportunity to learn such things.Martian!  This is what you said to Georg, you find that not an attack on Georg's character?  Maybe your thinking is bogus to say the l…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 27 2010,14:11)Quote (martian @ Sep. 25 2010,02:03)Actually I do not use implication. My conclusions come from very clear unquestioned scripture.Well, you can't just use the scriptures you want to Martian.  I've showed you a couple “very clear unquestioned scriptures” during this debate, but you don't want to include them…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 27 2010,07:04)Quote (martian @ Sep. 26 2010,09:42)There seem to be a lot of threads that ask if something is implied. The Dictionary defines “implied” as: to involve or indicate by inference, association, or necessary consequence rather than by direct statement : to contain potentially: to express indirectlyWhy is it that eve…[Read more]