Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 18 2009,08:34)Martian said:Quote So personal attacks is all you can come up with?  What a joke. Where is your discussion on the etomology of the word. Where is your proof. I want all to know that thinker fails to win the argument becaue allhe can do is counter with personal attacks. You started with the personal…[Read more]

To show you how out of context thinkers words are, He makes a point to conclude that I must think Mosses rod was YHWH. The word in Exodus 7:11 is HWH which means exist. And Mosses rod existed as a serpent. Exactly right. Only when the “Y” is added on front does it mean He Exist, the name of God.YHWH is derived from the root word HWH which means exist.

BTW thinker, The reason my friends do not laugh at my posts is they do not take my comments out of context as you so often do. Too bad they did not teach you any honesty in those Bible Colleges you went to.Again the subject of the thread is th meaning of YHWH and you have shown no proof at all.

Quote (meerkat @ Feb. 17 2009,09:23)Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 17 2009,07:48)Meerkat said:Quote You seem to rely on Jesus never having the ability to sin is why he never did sin when it was Gods foreknowledge and Spirit which kept his son from sinning. I agree with Martian that to be tempted there is a choice and awareness involved – if there was…[Read more]

Since this topic is being discused on two threads, I offer this from the other one.Thinker has said that YHWH means He will become. The driving force behind this interpretation is not proper interpretive skills, it is a need to prove his doctrine. Now I do not give a hoot about thinkers posturing or his need to prove that he is right and get the…[Read more]

Thinker seems to think that foreknowledge has an effect on the future. It does not. Predestination is not the same as foreknowledge. God nowing in advance that Christ would not sin has no effect on Christ ability to sin.Temptation means you have knowledge of a choice. A righteous choice and a sinfull choice. Thinker says Christ was not aware that…[Read more]

BTW to prove that thinker has no proof. He has said that all men are wicked and cannot be trusted and that all sources ae false. So all he has is his opinion. When he brings his pastors opinion you should outright reject it because of thinkers own stand.

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 18 2009,04:13)Martian said:Quote I let some of my friends read his posts and we all get a good laugh out of them.The Jews laughed at Jesus too. Jesus promised those who stood for His name that they would be hated as well.Martian said:Quote THE REASON I AGREED that YHWH can mean “He became” IS BECAUSE of our Western…[Read more]

Thinker has said that YHWH means He will become. The driving force behind this interpretation is not proper interpretive skills, it is a need to prove his doctrine. Now I do not give a hoot about thinkers posturing or his need to prove that he is right and get the accolades of the forum. I do not care if it is driven by insecurity, pride,…[Read more]

Just for clarity sake I post this from another thread —–The name Yahweh comes from the root word hayah. This root and the words derived from it have a wide variation in meaning and application. The original concrete meaning is breath and has the extended meaning exist as one who exists breathes. Without God’s breath we and the universe would n…[Read more]

The name Yahweh comes from the root word hayah. This root and the words derived from it have a wide variation in meaning and application. The original concrete meaning is breath and has the extended meaning exist as one who exists breathes. Without God’s breath we and the universe would not exist.The ancient Hebrews had a very organic and fluid l…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 16 2009,03:15)Martian said:Quote Did God who spoke out of Ballams Ass become an ass to do so? Did God become all of the various prophets that spoke saying “thus saith the Lord when it was them speaking? Did God become each one of the High Priests whn they spoke in prophecy?Does every prophet today suddenly change from a…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 15 2009,21:42)Martian said:Quote First do not presume to pull the old Yes or No scam on me. I am not your whipping to dog to be told how to respond to you. Any reasonable person knows that there are not always simple Yes or No answers.Martian,In terms of real possibilities the answer is “yes” or “no”. I deal with real…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 15 2009,20:35)Meerkat said:Quote The Moses and the snake example is still referring directly to the situation that is being talked about and the snake was/existed/exists/became in the present time of the future event that was being talked about.What you are trying to prove is that hayah can mean that God will become…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 15 2009,20:35)Meerkat said:Quote The Moses and the snake example is still referring directly to the situation that is being talked about and the snake was/existed/exists/became in the present time of the future event that was being talked about.What you are trying to prove is that hayah can mean that God will become…[Read more]

I am pasting this from another thread because I think it has bearing on this subject.The original thread can be found here.https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;t=2211Malachi 3:6?”For I, the LORD, do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed.It has been pointed out that this verse was about the context that God’s promises do n…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 14 2009,11:55)Thinker said:Quote One who knows himself capable of sin could never speak with this kind of assurance. A man who knows himself capable of sin would never say “I always do those things that please Him” unless he is deluded like Peter. When Jesus said “I do laways those things that please Him” he was speaking…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 13 2009,20:11)Friends,Can God change? I believe He can but there are some here who have  difficulty with this concept. They misapply Malachi 3:6 where God said “I change not”. But this simply means that when God makes a promise, threat or speaks a word of any kind that it cannot change because His character cannot change.…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 14 2009,08:11)Martian said:Quote Some insist that God became a man. In order for the being we know as God to become a man, He would need to change His character in order to be capable of sinning. How can God change His character from a being incapable of sin to a man that could sin?The problem with the formula postulated…[Read more]

David,I appreciate you agreeing with my posts on interpretation, however I would add a bit more .As has been said on this thread, many will claim to use proper methods and then use the “dodge to another scripture” to avoid being called on it.There are a few absolute truths that must be observed and reckoned with when interpreting scripture. One is…[Read more]