marthinus replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 7 months ago
Hi CultBJust to clear things up I dont believe what the Arians and Jehova Witnesses believe. I do not believe that Jesus was a created being. My Belief is based on what I see and read in scripture, and I ask myself Why did Jesus not just say it in clear unambigous terms that he is God in the same clear way that he said that he was the Son. Why…[Read more]
marthinus replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 7 months ago
Tim2See 1Corinthians 3:23 and ye are Christ's and Christ is God's This does not say Christ is God. marthinus
marthinus replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 7 months ago
Hi Tim2I wrote the following “Had 'theos' as well as 'logos' been preceded by the article the meaning would have been that the Word was completely identical with God, which is impossible if the Word was also 'with God'. What is meant is that the Word shared the nature of God, or was an extension of the personality of God.” I believe as the Son of…[Read more]
marthinus replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 7 months ago
Hi CBuster and Worshipping JesusYou Quoted “Some on this forum just want to look at Bible verses that are in the context of Christ mission as Messiah but don't like when shown the multitude of scripture identifying Him as the divine Jehovah God. Jesus Christ is the creator, not a creature and will always be equal to the Father in this sense. Jn…[Read more]
marthinus replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 7 months ago
Hi CBusterThanx for your time and effort of your response. I just want to correct you I never said that Jesus was a created being read John1:14 used (G3439) John 1:18 used (G3439) John3:16 used(G3439) John 3:18(G3439) (Begotten meaning only born Strongs G3439) Begotten can also mean regeneration as in Acts 13:33 Strongs G1080 1Cor 4:15…[Read more]
marthinus replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 7 months ago
Tim2Thanx for your posting I would just like to explain from my perspective I do not take away or add to any of the scriptures, I base my belief on what I read in the scriptures, as that is the only truth I can go by It is the blue print for my salvation and my hope in Jesus. I believe that the scriptures is only one aspect (a very imortant one)…[Read more]
marthinus replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 7 months ago
Hi Cult busterIn all honesty if you read Mark 14:61 The high priest asked Jesus whether he is the Son of the blessed One (I presume God is here the Blessed One) And Jesus answers him Yes I am (admitting that he is the son of the Blessed One) In verse 62 He (Jesus) also tells the high priest that he will SEE (the high priest and his co accusers)…[Read more]
marthinus replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 7 months ago
To Tim2Dont you think your attitude is unbecoming of a true believer in Christ, Nick Hassan has answered hundreds of questions even the most trivial ones, never getting angry, personal or sarcastic. This website is testamony to his indurance, patience and his love of God and his Son Jesus Christ. Thank you Nick for helping me to see the Truth.…[Read more]
marthinus replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 7 months ago
Hi Cult BusterExactly because he was begotten of God Before creation. We can go through all these and start this forum al over again. Lets look at John 5:18 I dont see where Jesus calls himself God, He was however calling God his own Father (We agree on this), the Jews made the assumption that he was making himself equal with God not Jesus.Lets…[Read more]
marthinus replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 7 months ago
Hi Cult BusterJesus was conceived by the Holy Ghost (Matthew 1:18 and 20), ie the Holy Ghost is the Father of Jesus. In Matthew 3:16-17 The Spirit confirms, is witness to the fact that Jesus is his Son. Then read 1 John 5:9-12. Do we want to make God a Lair? Through these scriptures (easy to interpret) in Matthew we can therefore say that the…[Read more]
marthinus replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 8 months ago
To charityDoes that mean Jesus is God and that he will be with us for ever? Or that God the father is with us and that Immanuel is the afirmation of this, his new covenant.
marthinus replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 8 months ago
To all in this debateCan any of you translate the word “Immanuel” to me in Matthew 1:23 ?Marthinus