Hello Asana…You asked the question: “Why would Christians rely on the Mercy of God as Muslims do when you said Jesus already paid the price for you? I wrote back and said that your question is much too vague for me.  I then asked if you have an example of a Christian relying on the mercy of God… as Muslims do? In your response to my…[Read more]

Hello Asana…Quote Why would Christians rely on the Mercy of God as Muslims do when you said Jesus already paid the price for you? For me, this question is much to vague.  Do you have an example of a Christian relying on the mercy of God… as Muslims do?  I'm not really sure what you are asking.I ask this because when you said: “… Jesus a…[Read more]

Hello Asana…Quote I must first say thank you very much for taking this matter so seriously and for that I salute you FrancisAs I look on my posts I will agree that at some points I did unintentionally use red herrings and or non-sequitorsI apologize for that but I let you convince me of arguing your argument which was faultyI have always…[Read more]

Hello Asana…Quote Your argument is contradictory in itself as you claim the Quran is too far away from the occurrence to bear weight  then you give incredible weight to a modern day Atheist historian. Secondly, Historical mentions are not Facts or  evidence they are only evidence of being mentioned.I keep saying this because I believe this… I…[Read more]

Hello Asana…Quote Francis:”Both of these statements completely contradict your first opening statement.”   Asana:You aThere is no contradiction first I used the word EVIDENCE secondly I stated NOT MUCH was even mentioned in any any historical  document OUTSIDE of the Bible or QuranYour opening statement said NO historical facts outside of the B…[Read more]

Hello Anasa…Quote Francis,There is NO historical facts about Jesus outside of the Bible and Quran. No Scholar or Historian can show much about Jesus nor was much of  anything was written by historians of that day even it the Bible itself there seems to be confusion of whether it was a Cross or a tree or a stake.The gospels were not even written…[Read more]

Hello Anasa…Thank you for sharing with me your beliefs.You wrote:Quote I believe and understand “know” that God saved Jesus from the cross, I believed it before I ever read the Quran so when I saw it in the Quran it was a confirmation.Here is the problem I'm having with this statement of yours above… your belief is based completely on your…[Read more]

Hello WhatIsTrue….Quote Francis,I don't post enough around here for you to know any better, but I am not an atheist.  I am simply not a “religionist” either.  I very much believe in good and evil, and I see slavery as evil and condemn the bible for advocating it.  How about you?But on what basis do you judge whether something is good or evil? Ar…[Read more]

Hello WhatIsTrue… I was wondering where this “dignity of personhood” comes from in a universe where no God exists?  Is that just something made up by humans?  Is it a human convention thought up by humans to apply to humans?  Wouldn't it be true that in a universe with no God, that this concept of of “dignity of personhood” is not objectively fo…[Read more]

Hello again Anasa…So as I understand it… the topic between you and I is the issue of whether Jesus actually died on the cross or not.You don't have to, but it would help if you could give me a few reasons as to why you don't believe that Jesus died on the cross. I know you are busy, and so if you don't have the time to do so, I will go back…[Read more]

Hello Anasa…Quote The theory of mentioning something very important or miraculous does not hold up. Paul didn't mention the Virgin birth in his entire catalogue of writings.  In-fact Paul says Jesus came according to the flesh.First of all… I can only guess why Paul wouldn't mention the virgin birth.  The fact is, he doesn't tell us why e…[Read more]

Hello theodorej… Quote Greetings B…..Lazarus was raised from the dead as per the devine power of the father vested in Jesus….He did nothing to facilitate his coming to life after death….Just as we can and will do nothing to facilitate our resurection…but Francis makes an accurate observation with respect to our glorified spirit…[Read more]

Hello Anasa…My time is limited and so I can't always respond quickly. I was almost done with my post when I saw that you added some more information. I want to integrate the new material into my response.Thanks for your patienceFrancis

Quote t8Does the bible condone slavery? If yes, where?TimI don't know if condone is the correct word but it certainly appears to accept the institution of slavery.Maybe neither “condone” nor “accept” are the correct words to use.  Maybe the word is “tolerate”?Just as God did not “condone” nor really “accept” divorce, He appears instead to have…[Read more]

Hello Asana…Quote Now in regards to what you said about resurrection and Lazarus as being different than Jesus.If Jesus had a resurrected Body then why was he hungry and thirsty? He asked for broiled fish and honey comb. Obviously  his body was still made of flesh and blood when he was taken up. He also said clearly he was not a ghostBehold my…[Read more]

Hello Stuart…When Mandy (Not3in1) asked what do you seriously doubt, you answered with this:Quote Everything.  Which is why I believe what I believe is true.  As soon as you know you are right, you are almost certainly wrong about  many things.  Notice the use of 'almost certainly' there!There are several bundaries beyond which we simply can…[Read more]

To whomever it concerns….This is just an opinion of mine, but I don't think Lazarus was Resurrected. And when I use this word, I'm speaking in terms of how the Jews understood that word. The Jews did not believe that any Resurrection was going to happen until the end of the world. So when Jesus brought Lazarus back to life, it was not in a…[Read more]

Quote Hi Francis,I have so many threads and things to read but I will do better than that I will simply create a summary to the best of my ability.I believe in progressive revelation which means I take the position that as God reveals new information my view is broadened.I believe that what is called the Old Testament is trueWhat is called the New…[Read more]

Hello Bodhitharta…Do you have a website or a couple of threads in here which you feel explains very well your objections to Christianity? There are so many threads, and being new in here, it will take me a while to search. For example… it appears that you don't believe that Jesus was God Incarnate… that He was fully God and human while…[Read more]

Hello Bodhitharta…I understand that your beliefs differ from mine… and I undersand why (superficially anyway) this particular thread might have been put under the category/group called “Doctrinal Disagreements”.And even though I don't agree with much of your faith and your understanding of God/Jesus… I still find that you do ask some very…[Read more]