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hello Constitutionalist.

lets just stick to Biblical truths. read leviticus 18 verse 22. homosexuals working within the “church” is not a good thing, do not forget that the light and darkness can not mix,

we seem to be living an an age where people are preaching what has become known as the “comfortable gospel” where instead of exposing the lies and false truths we seem to be lax (if that is the right word) and there is things such as homosexual, priests etc… and gay weddings.

God specifically made it known that man is for woman and woman is for man. also focus on leviticus 18 verse 26-29

like take what NH said “Why are the wicked activities of the whore of babylon relevant?”
that could show the lax nature of which I speak. read Mark 16 verse 15, such nature could be out of ignoring Matthew 5 verse 13-16

NH do you not hink that homosexual within the church is an abomination? how could one simply ignore the influence religious leaders could have on people. not to mention the young who grow up with such negative inluences, unfortunately many believe that God will br okay with the wrong that they do. Although He has made his feelings clear on alot of things

Revelation 17 speaks of the whore of babylon, you might want to study verse 6. though let us try an disuss instead of argue

[followerofJesus]

hmm. interesting thought people. yeah it is only by Grace that believers in Jesus are saved, Ephesians 2:8.

though what about those who fell from grace?
Though yes it is only by grace that we are saved.
our sin makes us unworthy but God extends his grace to all those who would receive it.

Interesting thoughts banana God does choose people for different things but yeah one should not forget that grace is not something that can be earned, only received through faith.

yes Jesus Christ did in fact die for our sins and it is through Him that we are saved, reedemed, receive from God read Romans 8:32.

“Grace, is God's willingness to forgive our sins” but God forgiveness of sins is not just down to grace but Love and Mercy. dont you agree?

[followerofJesus]

hello bretheren I still struggle with this problem and need help can you remember me in your prayers, do you have any advice on how to overcome this?

Thank you

[followerofJesus]

terraricca

I have not rejected the sacrifice of Christ, I believe he died, payed the price for our sins, and was ressurected and he lives, I have not once rejected Christ or his sacrifce. though 1 John 8, does tell us to be more honest and open and yes not to believe that we are without sin, though it.

I acknowledge the importance of Baptism by water BUT it is not necessarily the way one is Born again. we are born of HIS Spirit and God baptises us in the Holy Spirit, far different from water baptism.

but it is GOD who cleanses is and we are made right with God through God the Son Jesus Christ. and it is HIS blood that washes away sins, impurity, blemishes, reedems and so on. people place to much emphasis on works of man (and woman) and may overlook Ephesians 2 verse 8 and 9. not to mention forget how one receives from God. FAITH by faith one receives, by Faith one is born again but no body can cause someone to believe. it is by Faith that I was born again. me and God knows that regardless of what anyone else might think.

I would much rather please God than man anyway. Though often people try to misinterprate Biblical truths and that is why one needs to be so guarded for the devil knows the Bible very well, and so do his followers they are already out in the world deceiving so many

[followerofJesus]

it is a rather interesting discussion going on.

Though one should not forget that the Bible was not written for just intelligent people to understand, but for the poor and uneducated people as well, in the early days of Christianity.

so one should simply take the Biblical truths as they are and stop tdoubting the validty of the Bible. and God has already made known all those who try to deny that Jesus is the Christ in 1 John 9:22 and 2 John 7

but let us stop bickerring amongst ourselves and skeptics try and keep an open mind and just focus on the scripture, a Bible study if You will. I will put this more in a question form so as to not start an argument about different Bible versions (sorry if this seems patronising)

I believe that the Bible is the word of God and the ONLY authority on things that have happend, happening and things that are to come.

okay. What does the Bible say in Genesis 1 verse 1. in John 1 verse 1-3 and John 1 verse 14-15. the book of John is a really good book. but let us focus on these verses and discuss this. what do you say?

[followerofJesus]

Hello beloved

until recently I would have deemed you mad, but (dont care if I am not believed) God brought me back and has mad a lot of things known.

what angels did you see?
you should be careful what you see and go looking for, you should NEVER forget that both the Light and ythe dark have those higher ranking and that they are things on BOTH sides that humans just can not handle. FACT. so be warned

though many people would dismiss such things, personally I have not seen an angel as you have described but have interacted with them, unfortunately demons as well, not that I was looking to speak to any demons though.
Have been made more aware of things that go on.

You asked whether this is a blessing or a curse, first of all you should know that whatever good God brings to someone the devil will try to use it for evil. and indeed it seems to be a 2 way thing. you see them they see you, it is good that you are in Christ as he is the only protection and I would advise you to stay in Him.

though it is really down to you, as to whether or not this becomes a blessing or a curse. what are you going to use it for? good or evil, all humans make that decision everyday and the demons are out to corrupt, kill, damn, dragg down. they have adopted the personas of their masters.

pray for discernment. remember satan was once an angel of light and would usually come in that form. Also you should NEVER forget or underestimate the darkness that masks itself as Light, that is a far more dangerous type of darkness, so when you do see what “appears” to be an angel. test it heres a good test “do you accept Jesus and all His teachings? Do you accept that he is the messiah that died for the sins of humanity?” do not forget that the light and the darkness can not mix, and never agreee on anything, Angels of the Lord would agree to this, but those that do not agree you should plead the blood of Jesus. in your life, sourroundings, every department of your life.

remember to do this daily, because there is power in the blood of Jesus and NOTHING that is against God can stand up to it.
do not forget that people often fear and or hate that which they do not understand so be careful, lest you find someone who may use you as part of some experiment and or for their own purposes.

you could pray against those demons, ask for them to be bound, taken care of, driven away, do not EVER let ANY demon hang around for even though they may seem, mild, busy etc… even the least of the Kingdom of darkness is capable of greatly harming you and those around you.

you should be grateful that you have not seen any of the higher ranking angels&demons for there are many things humans can not handle and it would leave an effect.
appearence is no reflection on rank and or power so be extremely cautious either side.

so. you can see angels&demons. what are you going to do?
you follow Christ. so if you can you may want to try and back up the Holy angels (do not forget 1 3rd fell) and pray against those demons. BIBLICAL knowledge is ESSENTIAL and standing right with God. MANY have underestimated those in the kingdom of darkness and have payed dearly for it.

Power and Authority has already been given to Gods children over them. and fear except of the Lord is a very dangerous thing.
You decide what you do with this ability. if you say a demon. do you pray against it? or just let it do whatever it was doing?
ask for God to handle it, for he is God. you know? and there is NOTHING he can not do

Peace and God bless you

[followerofJesus]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 27 2009,05:42)

Brother's and sister's (and even those who don't consider me such because their theories will not allow it), I've been doing a lot of back reading here at HeavenNet.  I daresay that I've read nearly every thread now. My faith is shot.  I believe there is a God/Creator and that is all. Everyone has their theory and verse.  Everyone is so convinced they are right (most have 'heard from God' to deepend their brand of conviction). What I have found in comparing the scriptures to various theories is this – the bible can be manipulated to ANY idea out there.  And the Holy Spirit?  Well….”he” says different things to different people.  I think he enjoys sending children around the mullberry bush… Why should I believe any of it?  And if I am to believe some of it or portions of it…..which theories should I choose?  Yours? Sometimes I truly feel like God has abandoned me. Love, Mandy

focus on the Bible

focus on Jesus

many times we will be confused, misinterprate, the Bible

wonder things like “what did God mean when_”
What did God mean by “what does God mean by____”

God gives wisdom to all those who ask
God gives understanding to all those who ask

The book of Proverbs is a really good book,
If you don't get it, understand then ask God

He was called teacher, but (I am no teacher myself) there are those who won't get things straight away, (myself included)

Though one would have to guard themselves from false teachings

For people can have a point, take a verse from the Bible use it in an attempt to prove them right and make their point accross

the thing is satan knows the Bible very well

and would attempt to 'use' truth, to deceive you, or not tell you the whole truth (half-truths), or dilebirately misinterprate the truth.

one should always focus on Jesus

not sure if this helps but, whenever I am confused at times I turn to God, thinking things like “How did Jesus do it?” “What would Jesus do in this situation.

I am not arrogant, foolish, blasphemus to say I am Jesus

I see it this way for Jesus set the example of what we should be

The thing is unfortunately there are many 'denominations' within the body of Christ, arguing that their teachings is correct etc…

even though we are all one in the body of Christ

As for being a Brother/Sister

we all call him Father

Jesus has given all those who believe in him the right to be children of God

Pray to God to show you the truth, the right path, seperate truth from lie

For Him to bring you truth

“and you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free”

For you to be able to discern (dicsecerning spirit) from what is truth and what is lie

What is of God and what is not

(do not forget that anything that is not of God, is not something you should believe, take party in

[followerofJesus]

Hey Akara

The thing is you should pray for God to give you insight and understanding into the Word

Although you should try and find a version of the Bible that most speaks to you

Although there is only one Bible

for example take Joshua 10 verse 14 “…………………That was the day the Lord harkened to the voice of a man…………………”

I wont get something Like that, but I do understand N.C.V of the Bible

for example take Joshua 10 verse 14 “………………… That was the day the Lord listened to a human being……………………….”

Sorry if this offends you though I do not mean to

for example take the word house. It may be said in another language but it is still the same thing

I have different versions of the Bible for comparison reasons

But N.C.V is the one that most speaks to me

Remember when God speaks he wants to be understood

Although not everybody would understand every version of the Bible.

The Lord speaks most directly to us through the Bible

Although sometimes we do not understand

But he is a teacher

So just pray and ask him to clarify, and lead you to others who can help you grow as a Christian

The Bible helps us teaches us guides us. so I hope this helps you

Tell me how it goes

When –
You question Gods existence and creation,Isaiah 45: 5-19
You doubt if there is life after death,1Corinthians 15
You are sad,John 14
You have sinned,Psalm 51
You are facing danger,Psalm 91
People have failed you,Psalm 27
It feels as though God is far from you,Psalm 139
Your faith needs stimulation,Hebrews 11
You are alone and scared,Psalm 23
You are worried,Matthew 8:19-34
You are hurt by peoples comments when you follow Jesus teachings,Matthew 5:1-12
You wonder about Christianity,2 Corinthians 5:15-18
You feel like an outcast,Romans 8:31-39
You are seeking peace,Matthew 11:25-30
It feels as if the world is bigger than God,Psalm 90
You need Christ like insurance,Romans 8:1-30
You are leaving home for a trip ,Psalm 121
You are praying for yourself,Psalm 87
You require courage for a task,Joshua 1
Inflation's and investments are hogging your thoughts,Mark 10:17-31
You are depressive,Psalm 27
Your bank account is empty,Psalm 37
You lose faith in mankind,1Corinthians 13
It looks like people are unfriendly,John 15
You are losing hope,Psalm 126
You feel the world is small compared to you,Psalm 19
You want to carry fruit,John 15
Paul's secret for happiness,Colossians 3:12-17
With big opportunity/ discovery,Isaiah 55
To get along with other people,Romans 12
For dealing with fear,Psalm 47
For security,Psalm 121:3
For assurance,Mark 8:35
For reassurance,Psalm 145:18
You need advise on leading life,Proverbs 22 and Proverbs 23
You find Christianity to be a very strict religion, and wonder if you have to sacrifice all pleasures in life,Ecclesiastes 11:7-10
You want to know the meaning of love,1Corinthians 13

[followerofJesus]

Constitutionalist

Do you know the original text of the Bible?

[followerofJesus]

Thinker

Revelations 12: 12
So, rejoice, you heavens and all who live there!
But it will be terrible for the earth and the sea,
because the devil has come down to you!
He is filled with anger, because he knows he does not
have mush time.

though everyone has their own opinions beliefs etc…

It Rev 12:12 shows that the devil, his time is running out

He is using what time he has left to destroy, deceive etc…

Though Jesus is coming soon

Revelatio 22:20
Jesus, the One who says these things are true, says, “Yes, I am coming soon.”

which shows that his second coming is yet to happen

until the Biblical prophecies are fulfilled it is dangerous to think that the secon coming of Jesus Christ have already happened

Isaih 14 speaks of what is going to happen to Satan

In regards to the lake of Burning Sulphur

Revelation 20 verse 10 – 15
Revelation 21 verse 7 -8

as for when Jesus will come again

Read Matthew 24 verse 31 – 56

Though entire chapter is good in regards to this

[followerofJesus]

Many people have come to 'disprove God'

Has come to raise confusion

We are warned that in the end times many deceivers would cone to deceive peoplem many false prophets

So to all those who do not believe in Jesus

Question whether he is God

Have you been deceived?

or Are you a False Prohet?

I guess if you have been deceived, Only God can enlighten you

If you are indeed a False Prophet, you wont admit it anyway

Either way I advise that we all seek the truth

Focus on Matthew 18 verse 6 and 7

Often truth is mixed with lie

which makes their deception attempts to confuse people so effective

Proverbs is a very good book to focus on

Chapter 9 is good

[followerofJesus]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 18 2009,06:03)

Quote (followerofJesus @ Oct. 13 2009,11:44) Hey Nick Hassan I am born again I know the Importance of being Born again It was by faith that I was born again Jesus explained to Nicodemus how important it is to be born again born again or not that does not mean that Evil would leave you (christians) alone when someone is born again they still have to grow, fellowship, obey God, meditate on the Bible It is obvious that the Bible is the most powerful book ever. It does not matter how many times you read it there is always something new to learn Though i agree with you on “get your feet on the rock and lay the foundation stone.” Because Christ is the Rock and protection, Safe place and redeemer Hi FOJ, You must be born again of water and the Spirit.

NH

I do not want to continue arguing with you

You obviously do not listen and or refuse to accept that I have been born again

Thankfully I do not need your approval to be born again

That is between me and God

May God watch over you, watch over all of us.

Even though one is born again does not mean that they should not still grow in the Lord

Does not mean that you would no longer sin,

We are still in need of forgiveness and only through Jesus are we forgiven, reedemed, our sins washed away

It is by his blood that we are cleansed of our sins

Jesus is the one who reconcilliated man to God

[followerofJesus]

I never said they did

“Bound by eternal chains, in caves awaiting judgement”

From what I can remember

They are only Angels of the Lord and Satans Angels

Angels of the Light and Angels of the darkness

Angels still in Heaven serving and worshipping God

And Fallen Angels

Many people take unhealthy interests in them

Many even believe that Arch Angel Micheal is Jesus Christ

Seeking out such things would have rather severe repurcussions

Although yes not all the fallen angels bred with humans as spoke of in Genesis 6 verse 4

[followerofJesus]

Irene

It could be taken like I am judging

Although ultimately the only thing ANYONE can do is to share the gospel

It is up to them as to whether they believe or not

Denying Christ has severe consequences

There is often confusion sent amongst children of God

Though NOBODY can force anyone to believe

It is a choice

All of us would be judged

All of us will meet God whether we like it or not

We can only share the Gospel and leave it up to them as to if they believe or not

Pray that God would reach all of us

For many have been deceived, are being deceived

Being a child of God, Seeking Wisdom, Guards us from such deception

Ultimately people do not live forever

When we die, we will learn the truth

The thing is you have to believed that you have been saved

For such words “We all fall short of the glory of God, and nobody is saved yet”

It would seem that you have not put oon your helmet: Ephesians 6 (Armour of God)

Though instead of holding steadfast to the truth, we argue amongst ourselves

If you do not believe you do not believe.

Doubting Jesus

Questioning the validity of The Bible

Lead to dangerous paths

May God watch over all of us in Jesus name. Amen

[followerofJesus]

NH I try to reason with you but you still refuse to believe

Still denyt the deity of Jesus Christ

Still try and confuse others with your 'teachings'

I can not make you to believe

Nobody can

I guess you would find out when you die

We all will die, be judged, learn the turth

The only thing is then it may be too late to do something about it

May God watch over you

[followerofJesus]

Jesus is God!

He Forgive sins 6 times here:
Matthew 9:2,
Matthew 9:6,
Mark 2:5,
Mark 2:10,
Luke 5:20-24
Luke 7:48
Who else but God can forgive sins?

Jesus claims God's name!
Look at:
Exodus 3:14 (New International Version)
14 God said to Moses, “I am who I am . This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.' “

Here are 7 times Jesus claims that very same name:
John 6:48
John 8:58
John 10:7
John 10:14
John 11:25
John 14:6
John 15:1

12 times Jesus is listed as being worshiped here:
Matthew 2:11
Matthew 8:2
Matthew 9:18
Matthew 14:33
Matthew 15:25
Matthew 18:26
Matthew 28:9
Matthew 28:17
Luke 24:52
John 4:20
John 9:38
Who else but God is worthy of being worshipped?

Jesus Christ Himself is God.

God is creator (Isa 40:28)
Jesus is creator (John 1:3)

God is Savior (Isa 45:22)
Jesus is Savior (John 4:42)

God raises dead (1Sam 2:6)
Jesus raises dead (John 5:21)

God is Judge (Joel 3:12)
Jesus is Judge (John 5:27, Matt 25:31)

God is Light (Isa 60:19)
Jesus is Light (John 8:12)

God is “I Am” (Exodus 3:14)
Jesus is “I Am” (John 8:58, 18:5-6)

God is Shepherd (Ps. 23:10
Jesus is Shepherd (John 10:11)

Glory of God (Isa 42:8, 48:11)
Glory of Jesus (John 17:1, 5)

God is First and Last (Isa 41:4, 44:6)
Jesus is First and Last (Rev 1:17, 2:8)

God is Redeemer (Hosea 13:14)
Jesus is Redeemer (Rev 5:9)

God is Bridegroom (Isa 62:5) (Hosea 2:16)
Jesus is Bridegroom (Rev 21:2, Matt 25:1)

God is Rock (Ps. 18:2)
Jesus is Rock (1Cor 10:4)

God is Forgiver of Sins (Jer. 31:34)
Jesus is Forgiver of Sins (Mark 2:7,10)

God is Worshiped by Angels (Ps. 148:2)
Jesus is Worshiped by Angels (Heb 1:6)

God is Addressed by Prayer (Throughout Old Testament)
Jesus is Addressed by Prayer (Acts 7:59)

God is Creator of Angels (Ps. 148:5)
Jesus is Creator of Angels (Col 1:16)

God is confessed as Lord (Isa 45:23)
Jesus is Confessed as Lord (Phil 2:10)

Who else but God is worthy of this?
Still want to tell me Jesus ISN'T God?

[followerofJesus]

Quote (karmarie @ Sep. 04 2009,22:32)

Wow,! It is sad that churches turn people away like that! What? I cant believe that, I mean, do they read the bible? A sad thing indeed! 31When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. Hmmmm In early church writtings it is said that The christians (back then thousands of years ago) would be poor but would make others rich, (because they gave everything away), and went the extra mile to help, as Jesus said, but….what on earth has happened!!!!!! That is sad. But I am glad you found what you were looking for.

I completely agree with karmarie

For Christ set the example for us all

When you read the word you can clearly see that he was completely selfless

Doing the will of the Father

Showing his love for them by the things he done, the people he helped, the lessons he taught

Often we should ask ourselves How did Jesus do it?

For he has gone through it all

But never left you Hebrews 13:5 Joshua 1:5

To God be the glory!!!

[followerofJesus]

Telling others about Jesus is great

I have a HUGE feel good feeling when I reach others and tell them about Christ though they are still many unbelievers

I have recently been contemplating the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ

Though it is a blessed assurance for all who believe

There are many who do not believe

Though may believe when he comes

It could very well be too late for them

Though I am usure how to word this

A prayer for unbelievers

Would be nice

Also for our Brothers and Sisters who are being persecuted for telling others of Jesus

For we Christians have often suffered for Christ

Which is a good thing considering we all have to bear our own cross

Though many of us have it a lot better than they

By that I mean we can go to church worship

without the threat of persecution, torture, death

Not to mention all those who are suffering

Thank You Brothers, Sisters

[followerofJesus]

There are many who are in need of prayers

Please go to http://www.faithwithoutfear.org

[followerofJesus]

Sigh

This is place is for Songs of Praise to God

God forgive my sin in Jesus' name
I've been born again in Jesus' name
And in Jesus name I come to you
To share His love as he told me to

(Chorus)
He said: 'Freely, freely you have received
Freely, freely give;
Go in my name and because you believe
Others will know that I live'

All power is given in Jesus name
In earth and heaven in Jesus' name;
And in Jesus name I come to you
To share his power as he told me to.

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