epistemaniac replied to the topic Worshipping Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,16:10)Hi E, No scripture teaches any trinity. No anointed scriptural teacher teaches any trinity. You think by making a soup of scripture you can draw out the essense of a trinity?Such is abuse of the sacred words and elevation of man's rationalisations over what is writtensure the Scriptures do, and no matter…[Read more]
epistemaniac replied to the topic Worshipping Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 8 months ago
Quote Hi E,If you believed the simple scriptural fact of Jesus being the Son of God you would not need all these pages of intellectual rationalisations.Hi N, if you believed the simple scriptural fact of Jesus being the Son of God, and that the Scripture quite explicitly calls Him God, you would not need to ask all these silly questions,…[Read more]
epistemaniac replied to the topic Worshipping Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,10:29)Hi E, Simplicity is an important Key and we are told to become as children so thanks.God was a man you say.God alone is immortal so what of your god that died? Why did Jesus not tell folks to pray to him and not the Father in heaven.Why did Jesus not tell people to worship him and not tell them true…[Read more]
epistemaniac replied to the topic Worshipping Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 8 months ago
Glad you asked…. Not sure that you are because I really do not think you want to have your questions answered… but… there ya go… happy now? lol….blessings,ken
epistemaniac replied to the topic Worshipping Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 8 months ago
This part will be especially applicable to many here at this forum….:”C. Errors Have Come By Denying Any of the Three Statements Summarizing the Biblical TeachingIn the previous section we saw how the Bible requires that we affirm the following three statements:1. God is three persons.2. Each person is fully God.3. There is one God.Before we…[Read more]
epistemaniac replied to the topic Worshipping Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,08:59)Hi E, You say”I profess no wisdom of my own, but only that which is based on the Word of God.” Fine words but where is this trinity god taught by Jesus or the apostles or prophets?Hey… you asked… so don't complain about the answer…”EXPLANATION AND SCRIPTURAL BASISWe may define the doctrine of the…[Read more]
epistemaniac replied to the topic Worshipping Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,08:58)Quote (epistemaniac @ April 29 2009,08:48)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,07:48)Hi E,You say”The doctrine of the Trinity teaches this.Therefore the doctrine of the Trinity is true.” Is this the true depth of your wisdom?N,You deny the doctrine of the Trinity.Is that the depth of your wisdom?I profess no…[Read more]
epistemaniac replied to the topic Worshipping Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,09:20)Hi E, Where is this additional testimony that no scripture teacher gave us from the mouth of God?What are you talking about? What additional testimony? The Scripture teaches that there is only 1 God, the Scripture teaches that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are God, eg the Trinity. How much simpler could…[Read more]
epistemaniac replied to the topic Worshipping Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 8 months ago
bod… you may say Quote I never say that Jesus spoke to me but I do say that the Spirit of God was upon me when I spoke a certain thing.Well you may think this, you may even say it about yourself, but this has not been the case so far that I have seen. I any case, it was Jesus who promised that wherever 2 or more are gathered together in His…[Read more]
epistemaniac replied to the topic Worshipping Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 8 months ago
There is nothing new under the sun. Israel, wanted a King although God was their King so what did he do he gave them a King, Now you have wanted a God that you could define any way you want… and you have created a god that exists only in your mind…. One besides the One that has always been. Jesus is God to the Glory of the Father, so may God…[Read more]
epistemaniac replied to the topic Worshipping Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 8 months ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ April 25 2009,04:25)The true Gospel is not popular but Christianity blossomed under a different Gospel advanced by the Catholic Church and Rome, as well as the Greek Orthodox church. The majority of the world claims Christianity as its religion it is certainly the “wide” road.The observation I made about Jesus and simply…[Read more]
epistemaniac replied to the topic Worshipping Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Cindy @ April 29 2009,10:12)Hi E I too do not belief in the doctrine of the trinity any more. If you believe in the Bible, I can prove to you that there is no trinity. In Jesus own words ” My Father is greater then I. Also inEphesians 4: 6 it says that the Father is above all…….I think you make the mistake in believing it, because of…[Read more]
epistemaniac replied to the topic Worshipping Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,08:49)Hi E, Is your god a man?Was God in this man?Nick, are you really such a simpleton? I don't mean to be rude. But listen, if you want to go on thinking that by asking questions which are sometimes quite inane and, also, all too often it seems to me, intentionally misrepresenting of other people's views, then…[Read more]
epistemaniac replied to the topic Worshipping Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,08:33)Hi E, You can make anything or anyone into an Idol. ” But for us there is one God, the Father…”Are you one of US?“Us”I am not an “us” in the sense that I would identify myself as being associated with you or anyone like you who denies the Trinity. However, in the biblical sense of the term, for me, there…[Read more]
epistemaniac replied to the topic Worshipping Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,07:48)Hi E,You say”The doctrine of the Trinity teaches this.Therefore the doctrine of the Trinity is true.” Is this the true depth of your wisdom?N,You deny the doctrine of the Trinity.Is that the depth of your wisdom?I profess no wisdom of my own, but only that which is based on the Word of God. If you prefer…[Read more]
epistemaniac replied to the topic Worshipping Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,07:46)Hi E, Do you have a mediator between you and your trinity God?My mediator is the man Jesus Christ…. it also just so happens that Jesus is also a member of the Trinity. Turns out it is necessary for God to act as mediator, as only God could satisfy the necessary requirements for a holy and perfect…[Read more]
epistemaniac replied to the topic Worshipping Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,07:39)Hi E, 1Cor84As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. 5For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)…[Read more]
epistemaniac replied to the topic Worshipping Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,07:37)Hi E, You say”The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all called God.Therefore God is the Father Son and Holy Spirit.” This does not seem facile reasoning to you?Facile? Why yes Nick lol… it does seem… facile…Facile means:”Done or achieved with little effort or difficulty; easy.Working, acting, or…[Read more]
epistemaniac replied to the topic Worshipping Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 8 months ago
bodi, you say Quote As far as access to divinity is concerned if Someone prays to the Father and a divine thing occurs does this person not have access to the divine? Didn't Jesus say that the Father does all the works through Jesus and Jesus said he could do nothing on his own?If you think that your asking something in prayer makes you of the…[Read more]
epistemaniac replied to the topic Worshipping Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 8 months ago
bodi, let me ask you, do you have the Spirit of Christ in you?blessings,ken
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