Tri-nity should really be re-named BI-nity….because in the VAST majority of the texts they cite…there is NO mention of the holy spirit…and the the ones that DO mention it….i.e. Matt 28 and 1 John 5..are debatable because those verses seem to be spurious and can be reliable found in the oldest manuscripts…so again…the trinity is a…[Read more]

I think that in SOME places where the ANGEL of the LORD is mentioned..it MAY actually have been JESUS since he is said to be the WORD of GOD…but its purely speculation on my part and it takes an exercise in exegesis for me to come to those conclusions…

Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 24 2009,03:43)Quote (david @ Dec. 21 2009,13:54)Quote This is just one example of David's anti-Christian bag of tricks. I will get to the rest of his post soon. He really has my blood boiling profusely now.–The….um hum…”Thinker.”Quote I don't know TT, 1 Tim. 6:13 seems to be explained pretty well in his post. And it…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Nov. 20 2009,02:50)DK…..The subject  Paul is addressing is not if we should keep the commandments or not it is (WHO) we keep them , is it laike a slave who is (forced) to obey his master, or is it through a desire to do right by the effectual working of the Spirit of GOD. For the Gentiles who have (NOT) the LAW, but do the things…[Read more]

Yall are arguing over semantics now…If you want to keep the “Law”..fine there is nothing to say that you can't..so as long as you don't judge as “wrong” those who don't…As long as you remember that “Grace” and More importantly “LOVE & Faith”…are ultimately what we live by…Paul spoke about those who “wanted to be under Law”..Galatians 4……[Read more]

http://www.gospeltruth.net/menbornsinners/mbs02.htm (i don't agree with everything this guy says…but i agree..mostly..with what he says about “original sin”)VI. Rom. 5:12, 18, 19 “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned…Therefore as by the offense of…[Read more]

Interesting thoughts in this thread thus far..i might say..But here is where I stand…Men are not “sinners” but they do sin…Ezekiel 18:19-20; “Yet you ask, 'Why does the son not share the guilt of his father?' Since the son has done what is just and right and has been careful to keep all my decrees, he will surely live. The soul who sins is the…[Read more]

Quote (peace2all @ Nov. 18 2009,15:13)BD then why do we grow old and sick and die , when adam originally was perfect and death free until the act of sin was commited?Really? Where does the bible say adam was “perfect”? Where does it say he would NOT die?

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 18 2009,08:15)Quote (dirtyknections @ Nov. 18 2009,02:48)Ok…for those that may wonder…I consider myself a Deist…but I have as of late been thinking about the concept of “original sin”I'll start by asking a question…and we will see where this goes…Is it fair that I be punished for something I did not do?There is more…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 18 2009,07:15)Quote (Gene @ Nov. 17 2009,17:38)DB……..why do you have a problem with Jesus really dieing, and GOD raising him from the dead as scripture say He did.  Jesus himself said he was dead, don't you believe His own words. Does this have something to do with your Muslim Faith?geneI don't have a problem with…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2009,07:32)Hi DK, When the spirit leaves the person is dead.The waiting place of the soul is sheol.see my last post…Jonah is speaking metaphorically as was David in Psalms

True…but there was not a seperation of the two in this case because Jonah did not die…in his eyes..he (jonah) was as good as dead (his seeming predicament)…but he was not…his body did not die..again…i say study the hebrew…and compare the language in Jonah to the scriptures i quoted in psalms and job

Psalm 116:3 says, “The sorrows of death compassed me, and the pains of Sheol got hold upon me: I found trouble and sorrow.” Also, “For great thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest Sheol.( Psalm 86:13)Sorry for the multiple posts but i can't edit

just to add Nick..the book of Job uses similar language (job38)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2009,06:29)Hi BD, No he died and went to Sheol. No Nick…Jonah was alive…he was speaking metaphorically…you should research the original hebrew used in this account….

Hello everyone just wanted to stop in and say hi to everyone on the board…I would say hello to specific people but don't want anyone to feel left out As you can see I dont post much anymore. The reason is because I don't haven't had anything particularly enlightening to say lately..hahaha…but I do have a question…Whats up with all the…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ Aug. 27 2009,20:46)Quote (Douglas @ Aug. 26 2009,19:01)Quote (CatholicApologist @ Aug. 26 2009,18:00)Hey guys,This is probably where I need to get off the bus.  It's been a good ride while it lasted.I'm not going to argue with anyone based on a Sola Scriptura presupposition.Unless we can agree about the place of the Scriptures as…[Read more]

Let the Pharisee go….there is a difference between the “traditions that you were taught” and the “traditions of men”When he learns the difference…he will stop “shutting up the kingdom of heaven” to people like the Pharisee's did

When the holy spirit guides you to understand this scripture:Hebrews 13:11-14 (New Living Translation)11 Under the old system, the high priest brought the blood of animals into the Holy Place as a sacrifice for sin, and the bodies of the animals were burned outside the camp. 12 So also Jesus suffered and died outside the city gates to make his…[Read more]

When the holy spirit guides you to understand this scripture:Hebrews 13:11-14 (New Living Translation)11 Under the old system, the high priest brought the blood of animals into the Holy Place as a sacrifice for sin, and the bodies of the animals were burned outside the camp. 12 So also Jesus suffered and died outside the city gates to make his…[Read more]