Hey Danny, I totally respect the honesty you have shown in your last post. It is rare these days for someone to admit they may be wrong. All the best going forward man. I pray God shows us both the light of truth about not just where we live, but in all things. For now, I will continue to post other points about the flat earth for other…[Read more]

It is one thing to be caught in a lie and repent, but it is quite another to perpetuate the lie and hide all truth that exposes your lie. Truth is light and…[Read more]

Hey dabber. This is like you right?

Three easy to understand points for you to consider:

1. While many satellites regularly take pictures of the Earth, most of them are in a low orbit that’s too close to show the whole planet at once. It’s like trying to take a selfie with your phone right next to your nose. So they are often the result of many images stitched together.

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The stars do move, but only a little bit.

If you go for a drive in the countryside, the trees along the road are whizzing past. A building off in the distance moves slowly. And the mountains ten miles away hardly seem to move at all.

The stars are very, very, very, (very very) very far away.

The closest stars actually do move relative…[Read more]

What other option is there?

In the flat earth model that is impossible. In the heliocentric model it is guaranteed.

Lies don’t add up

Think @dannyd.

You don’t get the point. You may have addressed every proof. I don’t know.
But that doesn’t mean that the proofs are debunked.
That was my point.

Give me one then. If you cannot, then you are not a man of your own word.

If you can’t do it, don’t say it.

Why not fly to Australia and book a flight over Antarctica. Yes it would be expensive, but not as expensive as peddling lies and then facing God on Judgement Day.

@dannyd

Let’s assume that this is a close sun and those are the rays of the whole sun spread out at the correct angle. Well if that was the case, then that would lead to a small part of the planet experiencing day. Thus, 99.99% or so of the world would be experiencing night while this local…[Read more]

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• If you were a truthers, you’d be interested in being proven wrong as it would bring you closer to the truth.
• If you were a truther, you’d embrace criticism of your own model as it would bring you closer to the truth.
• If you were a truther, you wouldn’t deny incontrovertible evidence that you are wrong.…

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Please explain this phenomenon if the world we live on is a flat disc.
You can’t. This means your teaching and belief is fake.
At this point all you can do is either repent or explain how this matches reality.
For the record, the globe model fits this observation.

@dannyd

Neither you, Mike, or any flat earther ever has brought back the sun.

They can bring back small boats, but not the sun for some reason.

So why can they bring back small boats?

Because they were never over the horizon to begin with. They were simply too small to see with the naked eye.

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My photo is from an elevated position and clearly the sun sinks below the horizon. Further, it sinks below the horizon even from the beach. It also sinks below the horizon for all others who watch the sunset. Of course the sun will fade or disappear when clouds obscure it and that is verifiable by anyone with a pair of eyes. If you deny…[Read more]

Nope. That is just cloud or mist making it disappear. On a cloudless day, the sun clearly sinks below the horizon. I know because I can watch this anytime I want as I live near the coast. Here is one of my photos.

If you really believe the sun just fades away every evening, then how come people who are under the sun at that moment do…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

Your bring back the sun argument will be solved in this video.
Start from 28:15 till 30:23.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJK1gLHbOxA

Not even close @dannyd

The explanation contradicts itself. It says you can bring back boats, so even you can figure out that if you can do that, then you can bring back the sun.

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Danny, do you believe in reality and truth?

If so, after the sun has set on the flat earth because it is too far away to see, bring it back into view using zoom on your camera.

If you cannot do it, then the earth is not flat because the sun has gone over the curve. It is lower from your perspective.

An easy experiment to do. An easy…[Read more]

I am going to say it straight.

When a person is born of the Spirit, they are led into all truth. They may be deceived for a time, but the light increases in their life and darkness is overcome.

But a man who lives a lie, teaches a lie, and persecutes or opposes those who speak truth are not likely to have the Spirit of truth in their…[Read more]

Explain this. You can’t and that should worry you because truth can be explained.

Your question is wrong.

North is not up and South is not down.

Up is toward the sky and down is toward the centre of the earth.

You first need to prove that North is up and South is down before the question becomes a legitimate one.

Show me the proof of this please.

You won’t be able to because it is not true.

Look we get it. You cannot understand science. That is not a sin. But acknowledging your shortfalls and weaknesses is a good thing. It means your humble. But when you think you know something that you do not, that comes from pride.

How about we stick to something simple. I am sure you could perform this experiment yourself. Follow along…[Read more]

You are in no position to tell anyone the world is flat when yuo have zero evidence, no scientific understanding and no bible verse to support your belief.

You have nothing to support your teaching

Reality should bother you danny.

Further, I am still waiting for your no1 flat earth verse in the bible. I would love to read it.

The argument they make in the video is the law of perspective. That it disappears below the horizon because of perspective. But this is why you should be able to zoom in and bring it back. If it is simply just too far away because of perspective, then use a zoom lens and bring it back into perspective.

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Hi Danny. It is not a sin to lack scientific understanding.

I leave you with this to ponder if you can.

The globe model has the sun setting below the horizon just as the bible states.

Why don’t you bring back the sun taking a video of the sun when it supposedly is too far away to see.

Then bring it back by zooming in.

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Have you considered that saying that I am a freemason is another lie?

All lies are from the evil one.

I want to remind you that you lost this debate before it even started. Because flat earth is a flat out lie. And lies come from the evil one.

Ahhh, dabbs, you are getting it now. Berean missed the point.

There are three heavens.

This solves your waters above the stars problem.

So there is raqia between the water on the surface of our planet and in the sky as clouds that condense as rain and snow.

And then there are stars in the raqia which is probably the second…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  You should have just mentioned the angle of light or more specifically ‘the angle of the globe to the sun’ explanation and tried to debunk that instead.

Tell the truth next time. Don’t make out that the scientific explanation is the distance argument because that isn’t true. Rather, that is a common misconception which you took adv…

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<span style=”color: #ff0000;”><span style=”color: #000000;”>Danny:</span>  <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>@t8</span></span>

<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>proClaimer, you are a deCeiver.</span>
<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>It’s not hard to C…</span>

Proclaimer: <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>@dannyd</span>

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Proclaimer: @dannyd

Also explain why the sun goes down, which is possible in the heliocentric model, but not the flat earth model. Thank you in advance.

The sun rises, and the sun goes down, and hastens to the place where it rises.

The word translated as “rises” means “comes forth”.  The word translated as “goes down” means “goes in”.  But it…[Read more]

Danny, using the bible, there appears to be a number of errors. Let’s start with this one:

And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

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And God called the firmament (raqia) Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second…[Read more]

Also explain why the sun goes down, which is possible in the heliocentric model, but not the flat earth model. Thank you in advance.

The raqia is called heaven. God dwells in heaven. And the waters are above the raqia. Please explain why water is higher than the Most High. We await your answer.

Here is a 5 ton ball holding onto water. It is not flying off like FEers make out.
Of course the water is falling down slowly, but that is because of earth’s gravity. But in reality, this ball is spinning hundreds if not thousands of times faster than earth.

Try this yourself. Soak a tennis ball in water. Next, spin it once in 24 hours.…[Read more]

But about the Son he says,

“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.”

Let’s go back a bit to this verse to get some context:

“And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,”

So we can establish that God is speaking. He then speaks about angels:…[Read more]

Hey guys! and everyone else I didn’t mention,

Irenaeus wrote around AD 185 and mentions John 1:1 five times.
In one reference he comments, “‘and the Word was God,’ of course, for that which is begotten of God is God.”
Irenaeus understood Jesus as more than “a god” or a divine being of a sort.
He referred to Jesus as God.
Let me repeat wha…

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