Quote (princess of the king @ Sep. 19 2009,14:48)you do not make for yourself a carved image ………..shemoth/exodus 20.4could you please quote the footnote you have in 'your bible' regarding the scripture stated above ……….****post it note for me: venerate/worshipO…I'm SO glad you asked. Gladly:Ver. 4. A graven thing, nor the likeness…[Read more]

One more:Article 2. Whether any procession in God can be called generation?Objection 1. It would seem that no procession in God can be called generation. For generation is change from non-existence to existence, and is opposed to corruption; while matter is the subject of both. Nothing of all this belongs to God. Therefore generation cannot exist…[Read more]

Let's try St. Thomas Aquinas, shall we? (Taken from the Summa Theologica)Article 1. Whether there is procession in God?Objection 1. It would seem that there cannot be any procession in God. For procession signifies outward movement. But in God there is nothing mobile, nor anything extraneous. Therefore neither is there procession in God.Objection…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Sep. 19 2009,11:23)Hi CA:Sound like pure confusion to me.Love in Christ,MartyI'm not surprised Marty.

That was really cool of you guys to move the Trinity discussion elsewhere. Thanks so much.On the Antichrist note…I thought this was a very interesting point:The Pope as the AntichristIt is important for the Catholic apologist to have a good handle on what Scripture does and does not say regarding the Antichrist because the opponents of the…[Read more]

Quote (princess of the king @ Sep. 19 2009,14:02)Quote You may want to read the fathers….O…that's right….you have rejected your spiritual birthright. listen…………closely……….no, that stone still doesn't speak, how long you going to keep waiting wolf till one of the stones speak? don't worry your father hears them ………then…[Read more]

Quote (princess of the king @ Sep. 19 2009,14:21)Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 18 2009,10:24)Wasn't Jezebel the one who wanted to put the prophet of God to death?Yet she was eaten by dogs.  Is this where you get your preoccupation with wolves?how many hail mary's/our fathers did that one take you? wasn't enough. when praying do not keep on…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ Sep. 19 2009,13:21)Hi Douglas!To Cato and CA, how are we to know? And how are we to know what God feels when each one of us suffer??? Hmmm???We are taught of God through His Church.

Quote (princess of the king @ Sep. 19 2009,13:47)we would not have taken part with them in the blood of the prophets mat 23.29let's dish shall we?Jezebel,Just which “prophets” do you claim the Church killed? Quote you came in like theives and stole the church, and then called it your own, like a theif in the night.believe this, your clement wrote…[Read more]

I'm sorry for letting you get me off track. We should be talking about the antichrist here. Please see another thread for my continued comments on the topic of the nature and essence of God.

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 18 2009,23:09)Quote It is not your native tongue either.Right. So I take the counsel of the apostles, fathers, doctors, etc. You take YOURSELF.Quote Regardless, we still have the ability to look at the construction of a verse that is easily understood and compare it to similarly constructed verses that are debatable.This is a…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 18 2009,22:43)Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 18 2009,20:00)You would do well to keep in mind that the Catholic/Universal faith was the only Christian faith there was.  Thus the title “universal.”  The universal/catholic church and the Roman Universal/Catholic church are not the same thing.Roman Catholic Church is NOT a c…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 18 2009,14:08)Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 18 2009,13:44)I'm embarrassed for you that I have to spell this out.  You must have never read this passage.  If you had, you wouldn't have skipped this part:”She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. 5 Her child was caught up to God a…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 18 2009,14:05)That is another theory. That the Church is the woman and the 12 stars are the 12 apostles (foundation of the Church). Yes, Israel is likened to the sun, moon, & 12 stars, and the Church is also likened to the new Israel or people of promise.Theory? O…that's right…you don't believe that you can really KNOW what…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 19 2009,00:02)Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 18 2009,20:43)But it does.  You are by nature and substance a man.  That is WHAT you are.You missed the point.My nature is human. That makes me adam. But I am not Adam.I am a man/adam, but not the man/adam identified as Adam who was the first man.Even Eve is adam. But she is not A…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 19 2009,00:11)That is exactly the attitude that caused the decimation of the Jews in Nazi Europe. “It can't happen here” seemed to be the popular mantra.I am speaking of war in the United States, not in Europe. The twin towers of New York City were not in prague or Paris, London or Saville.And I am speaking of Muslim schools…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 19 2009,00:37)That is certainly debatable. How many people have they burned at the stake again? How many were thrown into prison because they spoke the truth? Jesus said that if his Kingdom were of the world then he could have people fighting for him, but his Kingdom was not of this world. The RCC is of this world and they have…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ Sep. 17 2009,10:47)Because God rose him from the grave! And I believe that the reason Jesus felt God had left him when he cried out  Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?   My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” Was because God couldnt look on the cruelty, suffering and death of his Son.Actually Jesus cried this out in our place

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 18 2009,15:12)CA believes in his father the Pope he even calls him holy father.I wonder when he prays “Our Father” who is he referring toGod is the source of all Fatherhood.A bit jealous, eh? Maybe you other chaps aren't aware of this. But Muslims don't see God as Father. They more see themselves as dogs to a master.

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 18 2009,16:47)Quote Being in nature or substance of someone/someone doesn't identify you as that someone. But it does. You are by nature and substance a man. That is WHAT you are.Quote E.g., God is Spirit. He is the one Spirit, (one Spirit, one Faith…).Yet angels are ministering spirits and they are not God. Therefore being…[Read more]