John 6:42
And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How then does he say, ‘I have come down from heaven’?

Jodi and Gene

You are like those unbelieving Jews who saw in Jesus only the son of the carpenter and of Mary.

Jesus answered them

Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among…[Read more]

Gene

Jésus said in John 6:38

For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

The Son of God is from heaven
He came to earth incarnated by the power of God and returned to where he was before.

What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?(v.58)

Jodi

You

Hi Berean,

YOU:

Jodi

Jesus tells us that he came down from heaven (his first home and that of the Father) to come and do not his own will but that of the One who sent him.
How can you not believe this?

ME: First off this “first home” business is NOT true, not only never mentioned as such by Jesus but is against scri…[Read more]

October 23rd Meditation: “With God every day (EGW)”.

Christ was tempted like us

For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses; on the contrary, he has been tempted like us in all things, without sin. (Hebrews 4:15)

The coming of Christ into our world was a great event, not only for this world, but for all the…[Read more]

 
Colossians 1:17 He is before all things, and all things abide in him.

Jodi

Jesus tells us that he came down from heaven (his first home and that of the Father) to come and do not his own will but that of the One who sent him.
How can you not believe this?

Preexistence of the Son of GOD

Daniel 10

And in the four and twentieth day of the first month, as I was by the side of the great river, which is Hiddekel;

Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz:
His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the…[Read more]

Jodi

You sweep away with your hand the texts which support the pre-existence and the divinity of the Son of God …
This has been demonstrated many times on this forum by many participants … but you ignore it.

Jodi

you loop with your earthly Christ
and you ignore the true Christ who comes from heaven (dwelling of God)

Gene

You

“Berean you would not know the truth if it bit you in the ass.  Your so far out there , you don’t even know if your afoot or horseback, in my opinion , and you certanily are not alone here that’s for sure.”

Me

Ah ah that’s all you can say … how sad
This proves that you are not from God but from the Devil

YOU WOULD DO WELL TO CALM YOURSELF … I PROPOSE YOU TO GO REST A LITTLE. WHAT I TELL YOU IS THE TRUTH.

Jodi

You

“You have not responded as I am aware, that you are told directly from scripture, that there was NO COMING of a savior UNTIL AFTER John preached of baptism. But that is not what you say.”

Me

The divine Son of God pre-exist and WAS BEFORE JOHN THE BAPTIST

John the Baptist :

John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of…[Read more]

who has sent his angel and rescued his servants!

THIS Angel IS the Angel OF the Lord

Not a mere angel but Thé Angel

who is assimilated to YHWH HIMSELF

“In reading passages that mention the angel of the Lord (YHWH) such as in Exodus 3 and many other passages, you can see that the text quickly conflates the angel of the Lord with YHWH. In…[Read more]

Jodi
Daniel 3 :
and the form of the fourth is like THE SON OF GOD .(DANIEL 3)

Who came to help Daniel’s friends when they were thrown into the fiery furnace by the servants of King Nebuchadnezzar?

I BELEIVE THAT IT IS THE SON OF GOD…..

ANOTHER PROOF OF THE PRE EXISTENCE OF THE SON OF GOD

Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellers, Did not we cast three men…[Read more]

Jodi

You

“JESUS DID NOT pre-exist and create heaven and earth, that is a direct LIE against scripture. YHVH made all things himself, and He did so through the ONE MAN who would bring forth YHVH’s purpose in creating all things in the first place, eternal life. Because this one man brings forth eternal life, YHVH held all things in him, in h…[Read more]

Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.(Proverbes 26:12)

You do not BELEIVE thé TRUTH but a LIE.

A MERE MAN CANNOT SAVE THE WORLD.

THE DIVIN SON OF GOD HAS PERMISSION If the FATHER.

Jodi

If You believe THAT” THE WORD” or “THE WORD OF GOD” IS ONE OF THE NAME or TITLE OF JESUS IN THE BIGINNING….YOU WILL BELEIVE THAT JESUS WAS(IN THE BIGINNING) WITH THE GOD AND WAS GOD.

WITHOUT THAT , THERE IS NO SAVIOR FOR THE WORLD

THIS IS THE FIRST CONDITION:
THE DIVINE SON OF GOD OFFERS HIMSELF IN SACRIFICE TO HIS FATHER FOR THE…[Read more]

And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

You don’t have to read the whole bible to understand this.