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Quote (amosbug @ July 19 2009,09:08) Quote (Douglas @ July 19 2009,06:41) Quote (amosbug @ July 18 2009,16:37) Douglas, I am just wondering if you are going to share what exactly you mean? Our Creator can talk to us in many ways…Do you feel like you are receiving a special message? If so are you posting these things for a reason? Amy I'm not receiving anything per se. Someone I know however, does seem to be able to (at times at least, it doesn't seem to be an “on demand” thing necessarily). The premise that if there is an entity that can be identified as “God”, and that this entity can communicate with one person it should (and by statement can) be able to communicate with other people is what brought me to this site. The best match I could find (using Google) for someone communicating with God came from this site. People on the site actually seem generally quite reasonable, pleasant and rational and once in a while an interesting topic starts. I probably wasn't planning to share exactly what I mean in specific detail because it's all to easy to generate negativity with controversial statements which would definitely be unhelpful. My logic is that God should be able to complete that link with anyone else able to communicate with him if it's appropriate. Well I'm glad you are not trying to generate negativity, but I think if you make statements that are just hinting at what you are really talking about without actually saying anything you may be doing just that. Greetings Amy…..Welcome to the forum,and I hope you enjoy the experience as much as I do….There have been so many movies and books on the rapture,however,I have been unable to find any scripture to support it without a doubt or two…Their are many ministers out there who have impecable credentials that attest to their briliance….Let us examine the process that got them those credentials…They memorized the text(somebody elses theory or observation)then they took the test based on what they memorized and passed,as a result they got a piece of paper that states they are an expert in a particular field….in this case it is bible interpretation….Let us always remember the scriptures,by design,are purposed to confuse and confound the wise and the learned….We are living in a time when prophecy is being full filled before our very eyes….My prayer is for wisdom to see and to understand…so I may be able to survive….Iam looking forward to your contribution to this forum…

Thank you very much…It's true many of those who teach these false doctrines, were first taught them at a Bible college…and there are a lot of very intelligent people who belive these things…I now see how amazing the word of God is because you don't have to be intelligent or go to college or church to be able to read and understand what God is saying to us…I pray for wisdom also, because I want to survive…I hope that I have it and that God will continue giving me more…I'm glad I found this place because I only know a few people that have any insight into these matters at all that I can talk too. I'm going through a hard time because of some of my friends and how miss lead they are, and they don't even care. I'm a lot different than I was when I meet them…and I may just have to realize that some of the friendships may be over, or will just be really different now.

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Quote (Douglas @ July 19 2009,06:41)

Quote (amosbug @ July 18 2009,16:37) Douglas, I am just wondering if you are going to share what exactly you mean? Our Creator can talk to us in many ways…Do you feel like you are receiving a special message? If so are you posting these things for a reason? Amy I'm not receiving anything per se. Someone I know however, does seem to be able to (at times at least, it doesn't seem to be an “on demand” thing necessarily). The premise that if there is an entity that can be identified as “God”, and that this entity can communicate with one person it should (and by statement can) be able to communicate with other people is what brought me to this site. The best match I could find (using Google) for someone communicating with God came from this site. People on the site actually seem generally quite reasonable, pleasant and rational and once in a while an interesting topic starts. I probably wasn't planning to share exactly what I mean in specific detail because it's all to easy to generate negativity with controversial statements which would definitely be unhelpful. My logic is that God should be able to complete that link with anyone else able to communicate with him if it's appropriate.

Well I'm glad you are not trying to generate negativity, but I think if you make statements that are just hinting at what you are really talking about without actually saying anything you may be doing just that.

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Quote (Douglas @ July 18 2009,08:01)

Cindy,July wrote: [/quote] Quote You say, you have another source of information, other then the Bible.  And you do not care to disclose that? God. At least, that's what the person from whom I get the messages (and relay back questions through) identifies the source as. Quote You do not trust the Bible, am I reading that right? Not as simple as that. I don't blindly place faith in it, true. However some parts of it seem to tie into archaelogical history nicely, so it can't be entirely discounted. It can be dangerous to read too much into it in my opinion (for example blaming women for Eve's actions in Genesis?) Quote I do agree about organized religion. Rev. talks plenty about them. My Husband and I fellowship with our Heavenly Father and Christ His Son.  But we have no other source about God, then the Bible. If one accepts the premise God communicated with people in the bible (e.g. Noah), is it unreasonable to suppose God could still communicate (directly) with some individuals? Actually that – and Google – is what brought me to this site.

Douglas,

I am just wondering if you are going to share what exactly you mean?

Our Creator can talk to us in many ways…Do you feel like you are receiving a special message? If so are you posting these things for a reason?

Amy

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Quote (Cindy @ July 18 2009,02:04) Quote (Douglas @ July 16 2009,10:13) Quote (seekingtruth @ July 13 2009,13:36) I've always been intrigued with the last days and open to speculation as long as it remains speculation. Many have been ruined by dogmatic interpretations which once unfulfilled leave those expecting, disappointed and discouraged. At this point in time, I don't think you need consult a bible to get an idea of the shape of things to come (I don't and wouldn't). The shape of things to come, for any who have open eyes and a rational mind is pretty clear to see. There probably isn't even that long to wait, in my opinion. That said, the probability is that it's only the last days for most people, so does that count? Douglas  I can't believe that a so called Christian is telling someone not to consult the Bible!  You mist not think that the Bible is the word of God!  If you would know Ancient History, you would see how events have come true, that were written in that Bible.  You are starving if you don't read the Bible and don't even know it.  All I can say to you, I am glad you are not my Husband. Irene Whoa, have I claimed to be Christian? Technically my parents had me baptised and tried to have me indoctrinated into , but I'd say overall it all failed. I wouldn't say not to read the bible – I have a couple of times (all of it) – and it's interesting even to me (not because I regard it as the word of god though, since if it is, there's a lot of clutter too). I'd say that when the “end” comes, it won't be the best guide as to how to proceed – in my humble opinion. Certainly it may contain useful beliefs, but I don't see the roadmap to survival in it, I'm afraid to say. In my opinion there are more direct ways to get at the word of god. Oh, and for what it's worth my opinion is that there are sections of the Bible that were predicted to people in advance by God and that did go on to happen (a few examples) I can bring to mind: – the great flood, with Noah – the destruction of Sodom and Gomorra – the plagues of Egypt (some at least) Now, let us suppose there is another such communication from God – relating to the not so distant future – reasonably supported by researching what is real and known to modern day human knowledge. If those events come to pass, the vast majority of all people – including those on this site – will perish. I say it could be real, and I have to act on that basis. What do you say?

Douglas,

Obviously you couldn't accept Roman Catholicism…you seem to be a very smart and logical person and if you look at religion from a “logic” standpoint it will never stand…That is what I did for a long time because of my experiences with Protistant churches and people. I had a lot of fights with my mother who kept telling me to turn to God and the Bible but it just didn't do for me what it did for her. You can not make yourself feel something you don't or believe something you do not believe- no matter how much you want to or how much easier it would be to just give in, because logic won't let you.

I really began to notice a few years back how things were changing on this earth…and what came back to me was a lot of the things I rembered about Bible prophecy. No matter how much I didn't want it to be true, logic told me it couldn't be a conwincidence.

I think it is really good that you have read the Bible, and more than once…I think if you are going to talk about the Bible (for or against it) you should be required to actually read it. We can not blame each other for how we feel about the Bible when we read it for ourselfs…You can only feel and understand what God allows you too, and this has nothing to do with logic or intellect…When I started reading the Bible again last year, I really tried to have an open mind. I tried to block all of those things that eveyone told me was true about the Bible and asked God if he was listening, to help me understand what is not humanly imaginable.

Amy

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Quote (seekingtruth @ July 13 2009,13:36) I've always been intrigued with the last days and open to speculation as long as it remains speculation. Many have been ruined by dogmatic interpretations which once unfulfilled leave those expecting, disappointed and discouraged. At this point in time, I don't think you need consult a bible to get an idea of the shape of things to come (I don't and wouldn't). The shape of things to come, for any who have open eyes and a rational mind is pretty clear to see. There probably isn't even that long to wait, in my opinion. That said, the probability is that it's only the last days for most people, so does that count?

I don't think you have to consult the Bible…however, if you do it's very intersting to see how things are coming true…You most definately don't have to be a Christian to have your eyes opened to what's going on in this world…It does give me some hope/peace though to know that these things are going to happen but we have a way out…Amy

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Quote (amosbug @ July 15 2009,03:06) Quote (Cindy @ July 13 2009,14:09) Hello amosbug!   I am really very happy for you, that you have found the Lord.  How you were Baptized makes a difference in your life, though.  Were you laid Hands on, and did you receive the Holy Spirit?  That is very important.  We came out of the Catholic Church and I do sympathies with you, about all the Pagan idols etc.  Unfortunately most Churches on the outside teach false doctrine.  My Husband and I fellowship with our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ, and I really like it here. Keep on seeking the truth and don't be afraid, there is no rapture.  The Body of Christ is Spiritual.  I am glad you are a Lady.  We have some nice Ladies here.  Mandy and Kathi are my favorite once.  So in Christian Love Irene Dear Irene, Thank your for your reply…I don't think that I was baptized in that way…It was one of those things that happened when I was with a church group…we were at someone's swimming pool and I'm not even sure why I was baptized at that time…So what would you suggest I do since I do not attend an “outside” church and have no desire too. I just want to read the Bible and have my own fellowship…and if possible fellowship with other like minded people…Who could I have baptize me do you think? amosbug  Yes I would get Baptized again, and make sure that the Minister lays Hands on you.  I would not go to any Church like the Catholic Church or the Protestant Church.  But you would have to go to a Minister.  At all depends were you live too. As long as you repent of your sins and believe in Christ that He came as a man and died for us. That is the most important of all. Good luck and I will pray for you that you will find someone that will lay Hands on you, and Baptize you. Best Wishes and Peace and Love Irene

Thanks for your help Irene….I really appriciate it

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Hi Amosbug: If you did not believe and had not repented, the baptism that you went through at the age of 11 or 12 did not have any significance, and so, yes, I believe that you should be baptized again if you believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that God has raised him from the dead and that the blood that he shed is for the propitiation for your sins. When the Apostle Peter preached to those who crucified Jesus when they believed the gospel they asked him what they should do, and the Apostle Peter told them: From the Acts of the Apostles: Quote 36Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. 37Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? 38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call. When you received the gift of the Holy Ghost, God will lead you by His Spirit into all truths in His Word and will help you in living the Christian life.  The simplicity of the gospel is to treat others the way you want them to treat you whether or not they treath you that way.  Live your life and example so that people may see the love of God manifest through your life. Relative to your husband, this is some advice from the scriptures: Quote 1 Peter 3 1Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. 3Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 4But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. 5For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands: 6Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement. Love in Christ, Marty

Thank you Marty!
I feel like I need to be baptized…here is the problem…I don't have anyone that can do it….I was thinking I could ask my Mother or Father in law…or that I could do it on my own…

Thank you for the Scriptures 2!

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Quote (Cindy @ July 13 2009,14:09)

Hello amosbug!   I am really very happy for you, that you have found the Lord.  How you were Baptized makes a difference in your life, though.  Were you laid Hands on, and did you receive the Holy Spirit?  That is very important.  We came out of the Catholic Church and I do sympathies with you, about all the Pagan idols etc.  Unfortunately most Churches on the outside teach false doctrine.  My Husband and I fellowship with our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ, and I really like it here. Keep on seeking the truth and don't be afraid, there is no rapture.  The Body of Christ is Spiritual.  I am glad you are a Lady.  We have some nice Ladies here.  Mandy and Kathi are my favorite once.  So in Christian Love Irene

Dear Irene,
Thank your for your reply…I don't think that I was baptized in that way…It was one of those things that happened when I was with a church group…we were at someone's swimming pool and I'm not even sure why I was baptized at that time…So what would you suggest I do since I do not attend an “outside” church and have no desire too. I just want to read the Bible and have my own fellowship…and if possible fellowship with other like minded people…Who could I have baptize me do you think?

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Quote (seekingtruth @ July 13 2009,13:36)

Welcome amosbug, I've always been intrigued with the last days and open to speculation as long as it remains speculation. Many have been ruined by dogmatic interpretations which once unfulfilled leave those expecting, disappointed and discouraged. All of us believe various errors for a time and unfortunately some will last for life, however truth is found in scripture, just seek the Lord's guidance, read it for what it says, not what others say it means. I pray that you find it. My opinion – Wm

Thank you very much

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Thanks…This is my first time on a forum so I'm not sure what I'm doing…Where it be?

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Thank you Mandy!

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