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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2005,05:28)Hi W, Wake up. God was IN HIM! Of course the works of God were done through him! Thomas recognised the contents of the Glorious container, Jesus of Nazareth, Son of the Living God.You need an awaking… To whom was Thomas speaking? Was he speaking to Jesus and in the same sentence speaking to God as well?…[Read more]

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    In fact there is no excuse today for not seeing that Jesus Christ did what was reserved for God alone. None whatsoever. The decision is yours utimatily.Jesus Christ – A man of blasphemy for messing with God's Word or God himself.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2005,05:19)Quote (WhiteMateria @ July 11 2005,05:16)What if the Bible reveals to us all we can percieve in this World? We would have to have faith that what all of the Word says is true even if it does not make complete sense. Can one make out a blueprint of how God created man out of dust? No not really… And what…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2005,05:14)Quote (WhiteMateria @ July 11 2005,05:05)Why then would not (Jesus) have said something to the effect of I WAS and not I AM?He spoke the truth” before Abraham was I am”Just as John said who was born before him.” he was before me”He was in the beginning with God.And then Thomas figured it out…”My Lord and…[Read more]

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    What if the Bible reveals to us all we can percieve in this World? We would have to have faith that what all of the Word says is true even if it does not make complete sense. Can one make out a blueprint of how God created man out of dust? No not really… And what exactly are the elements that make up the breath of life? No one can really…[Read more]

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    So how exactly can you say that WhiteMateria? What we percieve is limited to what we can see and the way we think. I shall use a model which is not the thing itself yet it will give us some insight. It will show that we can see everything there is to see from our perspective and yet not have the full answer. This is for demonstration purposes…[Read more]

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    This is what we find to be truth. Jesus Christ is the Son of God.Jesus Christ is also in the position to do that which is only reserved for God alone.Confused? It is easy to understand Son of God/GodIt is a mystery to understandSon of God = GodGod told us he would not reveal all to us. For us such thinking is impossable to actually show how in…[Read more]

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    Why then would not (Jesus) have said something to the effect of I WAS and not I AM?

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2005,04:55)Hi W, So Jesus was just kidding when he said he is the Son of God? Was it all a smokescreen for who he really was? But that calls him a liar.No one is denying that Jesus Christ is also the Son of God. Yet there is a compromise and this is only half of the solution. If we identify this Son of God as someone…[Read more]

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    But this is not the issue at hand. The real issue at hand is why did these Jews abandon their religion?Why did these Jews abandon YHWH to follow 'another' who added to God's law?Why did these Jews abandon YHWH to follow 'another' who took away from God's law?Why did these Jews abandon YHWH as their only savior to follow 'another'?And yet today…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2005,04:42)Hi L, So you declare an image to be in fact the original?You can see why the Jews struggled with the visit of the Son of God and how, unless they were open to the teaching from the Spirit, they would reject him as another claiming to be God. He never made that claim, but God visited His people in his…[Read more]

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    One must remember the Jews think of Jesus as a prophet but def. not God. Even today they still hold that – They are still waiting for the Messiah even! In what way am I stuck in the Jewish mindset? The Jewish mindset would tell me that Jesus is not the Messiah nor God – Just some small prophet who was not that terrably important.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2005,04:42)Hi L, So you declare an image to be in fact the original?You can see why the Jews struggled with the visit of the Son of God and how, unless they were open to the teaching from the Spirit, they would reject him as another claiming to be God. He never made that claim, but God visited His people in his…[Read more]

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    If Jesus Christ was anyone else I have no business following that person. For what he did was to slander God's most precious laws and be our 'second Savior'. We deserve to burn in hell for following anyone other than God who does that! I assure you!

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    *yea… even to teach anyone else to disobey the least of the commandments.*Should be corrected to “to NOT teach anyone else to disobey the least of the commandments!

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    And not in just reguards to being their Savior as well as YHWH but Jesus went around adding to God's law. Do you remember when Jesus said that its not what we eat that make us unclean but what comes out of a man's heart?In that statement alone he must have taken away ALL that God said about what the Jews shall not eat. Unclean animals and the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 10 2005,21:38)HiM, You quote Jesus as saying he is the saviour. When did he say that exactly?When exactly did I quote Jesus Christ? Once again you have put things out of perspective.Titus 3:6 (KJV) Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;This should tell you that someone else called Jesus Christ…[Read more]

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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 10 2005,04:15)t8 and heaven are the same person.Heh I figured I'd make them 2 seperate people just as they make God and Jesus Christ out to be. I mean why not?

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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 10 2005,04:07)Then there is no chance. Come on t8, this is nonsense, you have over-reacted.Ah this was the work of t8 and heaven actually. Not much to debate now since everyone is in cultic agreement or made to shut up eh?

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