1Jo 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.1Jo 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.Jhn 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.Jhn 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that…[Read more]

Quote (WhiteMateria @ July 11 2005,06:31)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2005,06:28)Hi W, For us there is ONE GOD ..and One LORD Jesus Christ.Is Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God? So he is separate from the Father who begat him? So how can he be another deity? It is you who say he is not us. We say as scripture does,he is “the only begotten…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2005,06:28)Hi W, For us there is ONE GOD ..and One LORD Jesus Christ.Is Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God? So he is separate from the Father who begat him? So how can he be another deity? It is you who say he is not us. We say as scripture does,he is “the only begotten God who was in the bosom of the Father”.…[Read more]

Quote (WhiteMateria @ July 11 2005,06:25)Is the son 'The Mighty God' as the Bible claims? Is Jesus Christ 'a god' himself?This is not saying he is of a divine nature but that he is in fact 'The Mighty God' just as it saysDid I ask if we called him Lord or not? No!I asked if he is 'The Mighty God' and there is a difference between God and Lord.Is…[Read more]

Is the son 'The Mighty God' as the Bible claims? Is Jesus Christ 'a god' himself?This is not saying he is of a divine nature but that he is in fact 'The Mighty God' just as it says

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2005,06:14)Hi W, Then speak with him not us. He said he was the Son of God. I believe that though many others call him a liar and say he was the Father of the Son of God in disguise. Your call there.Indeed Jesus did say he was the Son of God yet God said he would be called a Mighty God and The Everlasting Father. Whom…[Read more]

Quote (WhiteMateria @ July 11 2005,06:04)And this one?Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.So if Jesus is someone else that would make him a 'Mighty God' and…[Read more]

And this one?Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2005,05:59)Hi, I agree. God did it. But God chose a vessel to work through as He likes to do. He chose to do his work through His Son and then he continued that Work after the Son was risen through those who were in His Son.And the reason for the angels worshipping Jesus is?

Then answer me this.. Why do these angels worship someone other than God?When you figure that out let me know… Do they have a valid reason for this worship? Does it make Jesus another 'god' when that happens? If I were to worship a stone or a rock would it not be in a sense 'another god'?

And Jesus also did those things alone which only God himself could do. Do you not see this?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2005,05:49)Quote (WhiteMateria @ July 11 2005,05:41)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2005,05:38)So W, Do you think all the things Jesus said about the Father and Him and their wonderful relationship should be cast aside because of your perception of the meaning of an exclamation of an apostle? Even if you were right we do…[Read more]

Quote (WhiteMateria @ July 11 2005,05:46)Hbr 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.Oh my goodness! These corrupt angels worsphipping that other than what is 'God'. Suddenly 'someone else' becomes 'a god'. What a fine example for the Word to show us!God's…[Read more]

Hbr 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.Oh my goodness! These corrupt angels worsphipping that other than what is 'God'. Suddenly 'someone else' becomes 'a god'. What a fine example for the Word to show us!

So that every knee will bend to him that is coming in the clouds… Hmmmm I guess on that day that 'someone else' will become for us 'a god'!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2005,05:35)I said this was a model and not the thing itself that explains how we can gather all there is to gather and not see the entire picture.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2005,05:38)So W, Do you think all the things Jesus said about the Father and Him and their wonderful relationship should be cast aside because of your perception of the meaning of an exclamation of an apostle? Even if you were right we do not follow Thomas but Jesus, the Son of God surely?It is not by this exclimation…[Read more]

Quote (WhiteMateria @ July 11 2005,05:35)Jhn 20:26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace unto you.Jhn 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust into my…[Read more]

Jhn 20:26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace unto you.Jhn 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust into my side: and be not faithless, but…[Read more]

To Jesus…My LordOk Jesus you are being ignored now cause this part is for God…and My God!It is clear Thomas was speaking to Jesus the entire time!