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    You are missing the mark.Exd 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name Jealous, a jealous God:It does not matter how we worship Jesus Christ – If he is another God worshipping him as even the Son of God is still wrong! You have been warned against this!

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    But now you understand why I don't believe in the full Word of God?God said to worship only him.Jesus said to worship only God.Then angels worship Jesus who is God so that does not counterdict.Then Jesus says that God says that men will worship men and that surely does counterdict. Such a verse actually goes against the whole Christian community…[Read more]

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    My questions still stand firm to Nick and everyone else.

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    With that being said it still does not account for why Jesus is worshipped. Oh sure Jesus could be part of God and we be part of Jesus as his body and thus when God is worshipped – Jesus is worshipped and we are worshipped… But the arguements against me is that Jesus is 'another God' and we know that 'any other God' should not be worshipped…[Read more]

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    Now it could be that as we are part of the body of Christ and since Christ is worshipped as God himself then this is what is meant by we are worshipped as well. Since we make up his body.

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    That is to say for the most part the Bible is in agreement with itself but in some cases there are just things that go against itself. It is clear to see that YHWH God is the only God to be worshipped. Yet Jesus Christ is the only begotton God of God and is also worshipped. What is the deal? Well that is very simple and the answer must be he…[Read more]

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    Ah but God said not to worship any other god. If Nick says Jesus is also a God himself then this would be counterdiction. Since the Church of so and so is not God we find this as not going against God's word and yet it is so counterdicting everything God establishes in his word. It is things like these that allow me to look at the Bible with doubt.

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    But back to the issue at hand… What evidence is there to show that we shall be worshipped at all?

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    Further explain that I used to be a Christian but do not believe in it 100% therefor I cannot be considered a full and true Christian. So I rightfully opt to not be a Christian. After all one does not believe in God with only 90% of their hearts do they?

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    Quote (Cubes @ July 11 2005,17:13)Hello Whitemateria:You said you used to be a christian and are now no longer a christian. Are you reconsidering becoming a christian again?Do you believe any portion(s) of the Word of God?Are you an atheist or do you hold to some other belief?I believe that some higher power exist. But I do not believe that…[Read more]

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    You are forgetting…Exd 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name Jealous, a jealous God:And if we are to honor Jesus Christ any differently we have not honor him as the father.No doubt we shall be worshipped, as kings of the earth… but does that mean that our glory shall equal or eclipse the Son's or His Father's?…[Read more]

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    And what did Jesus have to say about this? What does his Word reveal?Mat 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.Luk 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and…[Read more]

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    Jesus will write on there 'The First and the Last' as his own God and 'The First and the Last' as his new name. Whatever he writes it will be the same.

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    Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.Rev 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;Rev 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am…[Read more]

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    It may not be clear that Mary was a virgin when it happened but what is clear that it was not another man's seed that impregnated her.Mat 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.Mat 1:19 Then Joseph her husband,…[Read more]

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    I am going to take away one of your arguements before you post so that you cannot use it and it shall make sense why I did it.You might argue that God has his own angels who worship him and Jesus has his own angels that worship him and neither worship both so therefor we should not worship both. The passage states that God's angels worshipped…[Read more]

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    And what did Jesus have to say about this? What does his Word reveal?Mat 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.Luk 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and…[Read more]

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    Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.Mar 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.If we are to be like angels in heaven what is to not say that we will not worship…[Read more]

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    John 1:1 of the New World Translation states….blah blah blah blah, and the Word was a god.Are you sure you don't want to become a Jehovah's Witness? They believe Jesus was 'a god'.

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    If the angels can worship him why can't we?Jesus is God incarnet and therefor he is worthy of worship.

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