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    Quote (acertainchap @ Jan. 14 2008,18:57)Quote (Towshab @ Jan. 15 2008,11:46)Mat 24:33 So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates.Who is “you”?Mat 24:3 As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your…[Read more]

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    Indeed Nick,1Th 1:1 Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy, To the church of the Thessalonians in God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace to you and peace.Even Paul was telling them they would all see Jesus return.

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    Mat 24:33 So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates.Who is “you”?Mat 24:3 As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the close of the age?”

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    No precise hour or day, no but he did make several statements about coming back during the lifetime of his disciples.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 14 2008,16:56)Hi Tow, Hang about. He will soon return.I can't live another 2000 years.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 14 2008,16:29)Hi tow, You plead the messiah was sprung on men? Then you had better read the NT and find out more.Again, please show me how he fit the role of the King Messiah found in Tanakh. No more excuses Nick.

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    From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geza_Vermes===================================Géza Vermes, Th.D., D. Litt. (born 22 June 1924) is a scholar and writer on religious history, particularly Jewish and Christian. He is a noted authority on the Dead Sea Scrolls and other ancient works in Aramaic, and an authority on the life and religion of Jesus.…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 14 2008,16:19)Hi tow, Would you know the plan of Godwhen the angels were ignorant?Nick,You are pleading your cause using the GT as your reference. It was easy to make such ambigous statements about all of this secrecy stuff when the answers were not there.Is this the Illuminati?

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 14 2008,16:24)Quote (Son of Light @ Jan. 15 2008,09:20)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2008,09:16)Quote (Son of Light @ Jan. 15 2008,09:15)Much of the dead sea scrolls is not yet public. Makes you wonder what powers that be that are trying to push this under the carpet.  Both orthodox Jews and Christians don't…[Read more]

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    Quote (Son of Light @ Jan. 14 2008,16:20)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2008,09:16)Quote (Son of Light @ Jan. 15 2008,09:15)Much of the dead sea scrolls is not yet public. Makes you wonder what powers that be that are trying to push this under the carpet.  Both orthodox Jews and Christians don't want to deal with this information.It is NOT…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 14 2008,16:09)Quote (Towshab @ Jan. 15 2008,08:21)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 14 2008,15:18)Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 14 2008,16:59)What I am trying to say is that the OT does not imply the Christ will come twice.  Am I wrong?not3But it dosnt imply his coming will only be once either.Trinitarians, the true masters of…[Read more]

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    Quote (Son of Light @ Jan. 14 2008,16:05)Tow,You yourself have admitted that the torah is jewish commentary.  Or at least thats my impression of your view. You don't believe the torah to be “God Breathed”.  If I am wrong set me straight on this.I don't think any text put on a page by men are “G-d breathed”. But it IS much better than relying on t…[Read more]

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    Quote (Son of Light @ Jan. 14 2008,16:02)Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 15 2008,08:53)SOL (sorry but everytime I see those letters put together I have to laugh a little – stand for something other than Son of Light, too)  :;): Um, can you tell me which church you are affiliated with, if any?No church.  Just the teachings of Jesus and modern s…[Read more]

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    Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 14 2008,15:50)That's another thing -It does appear that God “changes his mind” on occassion.  He was grieved that he had made man and then wiped them all out in the flood.  He decided to not wipe out the whole city of Sodem and saved Lot due to the begging of Abe, but he originally was going to wipe out everyone…..and the l…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 14 2008,15:49)Hi not3,God wants men to work hard for knowledge. He wants them to know the Son Who brings the spirit of understanding.Are you the same Nick that said we didn't need to know the answers? Did someone hijack your account?

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    Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 14 2008,15:46)Quote (Towshab @ Jan. 15 2008,08:41)Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 14 2008,15:23)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2008,08:18)But if he didnt come once then Christ is a fraud and our faith is in vain.Unless you believe Christ did all the miracles and healings and rose from the dead and yet is not the Messiah.But this is…[Read more]

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    Quote (Son of Light @ Jan. 14 2008,15:47)Quote (Towshab @ Jan. 15 2008,08:42)Quote (Son of Light @ Jan. 14 2008,15:40)Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 15 2008,08:23)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2008,08:18)But if he didnt come once then Christ is a fraud and our faith is in vain.Unless you believe Christ did all the miracles and healings and rose from…[Read more]

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    Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 14 2008,15:43)That makes sense.But we are only reborn if Jesus is the Messiah and died and was raised.  There is some question in my mind that he is the Messiah according to all the OT says about this “coming” Messiah.  Why is everything so cryptic and unclear?  Does God really want us to just play a guessing game all our li…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 14 2008,15:34)Hi Not3, The OT was written to natural men. The letter were written to the reborn sons and daughters of God. There is a difference.–Snicker–Same G-d? The one that does not change? I guess the OT G-d was just toying with those who chose to follow Him.

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    Quote (Son of Light @ Jan. 14 2008,15:40)Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 15 2008,08:23)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2008,08:18)But if he didnt come once then Christ is a fraud and our faith is in vain.Unless you believe Christ did all the miracles and healings and rose from the dead and yet is not the Messiah.But this is exactly the concern and exactly…[Read more]

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