Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 22 2011,13:27)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 21 2011,14:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,10:50)Gene did not corrupt God's word and neither did I, We simply tried to find a way to explain it so you would understand it.Well, Gene believes that Jesus being the ROOT OF David means that Jesus CAME FROM David's roots.  Is that a correct…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 22 2011,04:26)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 21 2011,04:35)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 20 2011,06:50)Paladin,Quote You are correct, in that spirit is genitive. I've got to stop posting when I get tired.The nominative neuter singular  relative pronoun “o” replaces spirit which is genitive neuter singular, not sword which is accusative…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 22 2011,10:10)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 21 2011,02:23)You seem to think that a root can only be on one side of the tree, that of begetting the tree, but that is not so. Scripture tells us of a root that dried up, and could bear no fruit “from the tree.”That makes perfect sense.  If the root dries up, the things that FOLLOW…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 22 2011,09:42)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 21 2011,01:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,03:29)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,06:33)When I quote John 1:1 telling us “the logos was God;” then offer another verse that tells us “the spirit, which is the reema of God,” and then give you my conclusion that the logos was God and the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 20 2011,16:42)Pierre,Quote it does not matter how God made his son as a human ,… It matters if God changed his Jesus from some other being into a human being as Jesus can only be a descendant of David if his body side is a descended from King David.  To change some other body into a genetic match of David’s genotype does not…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 21 2011,11:39)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 20 2011,00:20)My purpose for pointing out that Isaac is the root and offspring of Abraham was not a quote from scripture but was an example of how Jesus is the root of and offspring of David.Well, if it's not scriptural that Isaac was the root of Abraham, then why would you claim it as…[Read more]

Scripture shows that the root comes “out of” OR IS FOUND IN THE DESCENDANT OF THE ONE NAMED.Judges 5:14 Out of Ephraim was there a root of them against Amalek; after thee, Benjamin, among thy people; out of Machir came down governors, and out of Zebulun they that handle the pen of the writer. And the root “again takes root” passing on the seed of…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 20 2011,06:50)Paladin,Quote You are correct, in that spirit is genitive. I've got to stop posting when I get tired.The nominative neuter singular  relative pronoun “o” replaces spirit which is genitive neuter singular, not sword which is accusative feminine singular.It does not throw off my understanding of the verse…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 20 2011,03:53)PaladinQuote Unless you accept what scriptures says about it, I cannot give you any answer but yes.It was God who said – “He (Jesus) shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him (Jesus) the throne of his father David:” Now, if you want to know how God is the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,12:11)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,15:44)As for Jesus “coming down from heaven”, you will never come to an understanding of it's meaning because you are blinded by the words instead of seeing the message behind the words.What are you talking about?  I HAVE come to an understanding.  When my Lord says HE came d…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,10:50)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,15:04)Gene did not corrupt God's word and neither did I, We simply tried to find a way to explain it so you would understand it.Well, Gene believes that Jesus being the ROOT OF David means that Jesus CAME FROM David's roots.  Is that a correct assumption, Paladin?I assumed you…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,03:29)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,06:33)When I quote John 1:1 telling us “the logos was God;” then offer another verse that tells us “the spirit, which is the reema of God,” and then give you my conclusion that the logos was God and the reema is the Holy Spirit, what is your complaint about my “not real”…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2011,11:55)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,08:17)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 18 2011,11:27)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,05:49)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 18 2011,10:40)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 17 2011,01:12)John 1:1 does not say anything about “in the beginning was pre-existant Jesus, pirit.and pre-existant Jesus was with God, and…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2011,02:28)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 19 2011,02:01)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2011,01:50)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,23:36)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 18 2011,10:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 18 2011,03:33)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 17 2011,03:14)Of course John 1:1 and 14 qualifiy as a hard to understand verses.  Not only do those verses seem very…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,11:50)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,15:44)Michael, Michael, Michael;Don't you know “A body thou hast prepared me” is a reference to the church, the “children thou hast given me?”Paladin, Paladin, Paladin,Guess again.Hebrews 105 Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said:   “Sacrifice and offering you di…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 19 2011,02:08)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 19 2011,08:43)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 19 2011,01:05)PaladinQuote As for Jesus “coming down from heaven,” it is the same way the baptism of John was “from heaven.” It was by the authority of God in heaven.simple question here ;why is that John the Baptist ad a man for father and Christ…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,03:54)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,07:31)As for Jesus “coming down from heaven,” it is the same way the baptism of John was “from heaven.” It was by the authority of God in heaven.And you know this as a fact………….HOW?I'm not one of these people trying to make something out of nothing in a scripture.  So…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,03:55)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,07:31)Like when Paul says “I am become a fool”Paladin,What scripture has these words?  I could use that in another discussion I'm having.You could use them in this one. (assume a smiling idiot here)Paul said “I am become a fool in glorying; ye have compelled me: for I ought to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,03:23)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,07:31)Mike;Have you never seen new trees coming up from the root of a tree already  growing? most of the time they are considered “suckers” and are pruned from the tree.A root grows a tree, and new roots. It is the perfect example for the relation between the Christ David, and…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2011,01:50)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,23:36)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 18 2011,10:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 18 2011,03:33)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 17 2011,03:14)Of course John 1:1 and 14 qualifiy as a hard to understand verses.  Not only do those verses seem very straightforward to me, but the Bible also contains many other verses…[Read more]