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    Do these verses bring any clarity to the fact that the Father uses titles and share them with his son?Ephesians 5:1414For this reason I kneel before the Father, 15from whom his whole family in heaven and on earth derives its name.Revelation 3:1212 The one who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God. Never shall he go out of it,…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2005,06:31)Hi cubes, The Father does not have a name. He does not need one. Only we and archangels need names as there are more than one of us. God is absolutely unique. What we use for Him are descriptive terms. Jesus came to present His wonderful loving nature to us and to join us in the same relationship that he has…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Dec. 04 2007,20:35)Hi MorningstarQuote I was just stating the truth about how in an athiestic world view, ethics, justice and morality are just inventions of men independent of any higher standard. They could even be said to be geographical and based on majority. To a certain extent this is right.  I think many laws are written-down…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 16 2007,17:43)Hi MorningstarQuote good point Stu.  Truly without God (higher power a true source of somekind) then there really is not “meaning of life”.Are you telling me my life has no meaning?  Can you hear me laughing from where you are?Quote The only meaning life would have is what each one of us decides to give it. Yes, a…[Read more]

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    Jacoba. tricked his father into sacrificing him on a mountainb. tricked his father into blessing himc. tricked Laban into giving him his sheepd. tricked Esau into eating stew

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    It's ok no worries. :)but I did quote scripture accurately, like I said it just depends on the translation you use. Sorry I didn't realize the differences in translation concerning this verse.NIV 14Alexander the metalworker did me a great deal of harm. The Lord will repay him for what he has done.KJV14Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the…[Read more]

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    Quote (IM4Truth @ Dec. 04 2007,14:23)Morningstar I did not know what it was. So I looked it up.  In2 Timothy 4:14 it says that Alexander was a coppersmith. So what you say, we are both wrong? Give me another question.Peace and Love Mrs. :D :D :Dlol,last time I check copper was metal.It's the difference in which translation you use.coppersmithor Metalworker

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    Charity,Maybe I am just tired, but I can't for the life of me understand what you are saying.Maybe, if you clarified I could answer your question.

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    Quote (IM4Truth @ Dec. 04 2007,10:42)Morningstar Alexander the High Priest.Peace and Love Mrs. :D :D :DSorry, :( try again :)

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 04 2007,09:08)Hi MS, Rather they had esoteric understandings from outside of the Word of God that they believed in and thus showed their lack of knowledge of the ways of God and the respect due to the Word of God. Their foundation was false and their leaving was the natural result of that rebellion.2Jn” 9Whosoever…[Read more]

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    Quote (IM4Truth @ Dec. 03 2007,09:06)What are considered the Epistles.1 Corinth.1 Thessalonians.1 Timothyall of the abovePeace and Love Mrs. :D :D :Dall of the above.The apostle Pauls warns Timothy to be on guard against Alexander thea. Greatb. Metalworkerc. Templer workerd. High Priest

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    To demonstrate that they rejected “orhodoxy” of Jesus being the LORD YHWH. Their persian and grecian philosophies declared the material world evil so they couldn't believe the creator was good. They believed YHWH was evil.So they believed Jesus was a “NEW” son of El sent to save us from all the bad sons of El.My intent was to demonstrate that…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 04 2007,07:49)Hi MS, Given authority by Father God YHWH then?Well technically yes. Through YHWH the Father operates.See the Father and Son operate as one. The son doesn't do anything of his own but obeys the Father.The other sons of God did not operate with the Father as one. But, we can as we become adopted and we…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 04 2007,05:17)Hi , MS suggests we should not ignore Gnosticism as a source of spiritual truth. Who can agree?I do not suggest that at all, nick. I referenced them to demonstrate how they splintered off from the early church because they believed that Jesus couldn't be the creator because their philosophies stated the…[Read more]

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    Yes by using the definition of god as the bible does. A mighty spiritual power that has been, for reasons known to the Father, given a various degree of authority from on high.

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    Morningstar replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 03 2007,20:19)Hi MS, Lots of opinion but little supporting evidence.Well sure if you ignore the majority of bible scholars who are not affiliated with a religious denomination or tradition. And if you ignore archaeology. If you ignore Josephus's writings. If you ignore the writings of the early church. If you ignore the…[Read more]

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    Morningstar replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 11 months ago

    Yes he was.Both El and YHWH were.

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    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 01 2007,19:26)What is the oldest book in the bible?Job

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    Hebrew 1: 5 For whom of the Angels did He ever say: ” You are my Son, today I have begotten you and again: ” I will be to Him a Father, and He shall be to Me a Son.”Was Jesus the Firstborn and First begotten? Was Jesus begotten in the beginning as spirit. Then Begotten later as man?If Jesus was the only son of God begotten. Then of course God…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Nov. 27 2007,13:02)Quote I see no sister here. I see 'wife'. You seem to read more into scripture than scripture itself.You're right.  It could have been a niece or some other descendant of the “sons and daughters” that the Bible says Adam had.what if cains wife was not a daughter of Adam? But of a different creation? I have…[Read more]

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