Gene,

God is united to His Son, they do the God stuff together. The Father sees Him and His Son as one God in the fullest sense who is both God of gods and Lord of lords named Yahweh. Two different persons acting as one, interdependently to do the God stuff. They are God alone, no one besides them.

Proclaimer,

You said:

But I would like to add that the whole reason for creation is because of the Son. God created all things through him and for him. Further, God’s redemptive plan from the foundation of the world is also through him as you rightly point out.

We are offered to be born from above and become Sons. Our existence is tied up in T…

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Proclaimer,

You said:

I can’t provide a source for prototype as I wrongly assumed it was rooted in the word for firstborn despite both having the same root ‘proto’.

That said, I stll believe that he is the prototype. He is the ‘first type’, that is, the first Son. Those born from above will be like him. The same type of being. The original…

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Berean,

Yes, we are making progress 🙂

You said:

The Son has accepted that everything be given into his hands for the creation of the universe, for the plan of redemption and for judgment.
THE SON IS WORTHY OF ALL THESE TITLES MENTIONED IN ISAIAH
For a child is born to us, a son is given to us, and dominion will rest on his shoulder, and he will…

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Gene,

Jesus said that we are to know two persons to have eternal life, one is the Father and the other is the Son. Please don’t pretend that Jesus isn’t the elohim who is our one Lord.

carmel,

You said:

WHY, may I ask:

unto to us, a Son IS GIVEN?

WHY NOT, UNTO US A SON IS BORN?

It’s both.

Gene,

You said:

God made “all” mankind in his “image”…

Mankind is made in their image.

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:…

Jesus is the image of the invisible God, singular…you are not.

Mankind is made in their image, plural.

Merry Christmas Mia and everyone. Unto to us a Son is given!

Proclaimer,

I think people would say that they love the truth and truly think they do but are actually very deceived and can not see the truth. They lean on their own limited understanding and their lack of understanding. There is overwhelming evidence for a globe earth yet they believe it is a massive conspiracy which is majorly insulting the…[Read more]

Berean,

You said:

The Father and the Son HAVE WORKED AND WORK TOGETHER.
BUT THAT DOES NOT REMOVE THAT THE FATHER ONLY IS THE ONE TRUE GOD. ALL HONORS GO TO HIM FIRST.

The question is in the OP as to whether or not the Father does the God stuff interdependently with the Son or independently of the Son. You admit that they work together. That is in…[Read more]

Gene,

You asked:

please tell us how is a God “begotten”?

He is born of His Father, the invisible God who He is an image of.

Col 1  15The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or aut…[Read more]

Proclaimer:

You said:

Not God, but God’s Son.

Who is the God that inherits the nations in Psalms 82:8?

Psalms 82:8 Arise, O God, judge the earth; For thou shalt inherit all the nations.

Proclaimer and Berean,

Did one person create the world alone or with another person?

Did one person save the world alone or with another person?

Is one person governing the world alone in this age or with another person?

Proclaimer,

Reposted:

You said:

 In English, the word prototype is taken from the Greek,

Would you mind showing your source for that statement?

Gene,

There is only one begotten son who is also an only begotten God in the bosom of the Father. All other sons are sons by creation, designation, or being born again. None of the other sons are also an only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father.

No other son is the God who inherits the nations. No son is our God who inherits the…[Read more]

Proclaimer,

You wrote some good points to Danny. This flat earth nonsense is right up there with gender confusion, imo.

Danny,

What exactly was factual about what you wrote? Have you ever taken a Physics class?

Gene, this topic is about what “monogenes” means. Some say that it means “unique” and the video shows that it means “only begotten.” It is not about calling anyone else “father.” Please post elsewhere in an appropriate topic. Thanks! LU

. In English, the word prototype is taken from the Greek,

Would you mind showing your source for that statement?

Danny, you didn’t respond to my last post to you. In fact you have done that several times in other topics as far as I recall. If you consider what I wrote, it could help you understand things a bit better.