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Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Berean,
Can you show me a verse that is about Jesus’s resurrection that the grammar shows Jesus doing the action in an active voice as opposed to a passive voice?
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Hi Berean,
Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
The phrase “I will raise” is written in the active voice as opposed to the passive voice. The active voice in Greek means that the subject does the action. Jesus will raise His body up Himself.
On the third day, this is the only part of the complete resurrection that was…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
So, now that you know about the Greek words for Christ and anointing, this still stands:
Hi Gene,
I believe that it was the Spirit of Christ speaking through the prophet who wrote the words down, which shows the existence of Christ in the OT.
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Gene,
You said: LU……Yes the “Spirit” . Of the anointing, ie the Christo’s, , which is the Spirit of GOD .
Well, it is the Spirit of the God who inherits the nations, for sure. And to say that the Spirit of Christ should be understood as the spirit of the anointing is incorrect. That would be a different Greek word. Proof::
1 Peter 1:
10As t…
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Gene,
18The Jews then said to Him, “What sign do You show us as your authority for doing these things?” 19Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” 20The Jews then said, “It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?” 21But He was speaking of the temple of His body.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Hi Gene,
I believe that it was the Spirit of Christ speaking through the prophet who wrote the words down, which shows the existence of Christ in the OT.
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Berean,
You said:
Only GOD THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN PERSON.
Is Jesus the true God in person who will inherit the nations?
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Hi Gene,
Yes, it is about a future event. My question was…who said the prophesy? Who said:
“I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD: He said to Me, ‘You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.
Who is the I, Me, and the You? And was that prophesy told in the OT or not?
Thanks, LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Gene (posted a third time without your reply, btw.),
Who is speaking in this passage:
7I will proclaim the decree
spoken to Me by the LORD:
“You are My Son;
today I have become Your Father.
Was that spoken in the New Testament or the Old Testament?
Please answer both of those questions Gene.
Blessings, LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Proclaimer:
You said:
If you agree that the first Adam was a prototype, then why not the final Adam?
The second Adam was a life giving spirit. Is there another person that is a life giving spirit modeled after the second Adam? I don’t know of any.
Jesus is the firstborn from the dead and there are many to follow that act of being begotten from…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Hi Berean,
You said:
The Father had needed, needs the Son for all things and so yes, HE IS (as the one true God) INTERDEPENDENT ON THE SON ,BECAUSE HE IS A JUST AND GOOD GOD.
Do you agree that there are two persons who existed before creation that are interdependent to each other, one who remained God in nature and another who began in the same…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Proclaimer,
You quoted this:
Proclaimer: But I would like to add that the whole reason for creation is because of the Son. God created all things through him and for him. Further, God’s redemptive plan from the foundation of the world is also through him as you rightly point out. We are offered to be born from above and become Sons. Our e…
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Gene (posted a second time),
Who is speaking in this passage:
7I will proclaim the decree
spoken to Me by the LORD:
“You are My Son;
today I have become Your Father.
Was that spoken in the New Testament or the Old Testament?
Please answer both of those questions Gene.
Blessings, LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Gene,
Who is speaking in this passage:
7I will proclaim the decree
spoken to Me by the LORD:
“You are My Son;
today I have become Your Father.c
8Ask Me, and I will make the nations Your inheritance,
the ends of the earth Your possession.
9You will break themd with an iron scepter;
You will shatter them like pottery.”
Was that spo…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 12 months ago
Proclaimer,
You asked:
So who is the first type then? The first Son?
Adam is the first son that human sons are modeled after.
Lightenup replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 2 years ago
Thank you Carmel and Proclaimer. Surgery was a success, I’m thankful that it is over. Now to help him recover. It is amazing what they can do now medically. I’m so grateful for medical personnel!! Last year I had the blockage, 90%, and just needed a stent put in. It made a world of difference.
Blessings, LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 2 years ago
Happy New Year to you all! I’m ending 2022 in the hospital with my husband who will be having a quadruple bypass in a few hours. 2023 is going to start with a 4 month recovery. Two days ago we didn’t know this would be the plan. Thanks to the LORD for making us aware of 95% and 70% blockage in dangerous places! Trusting our Father and His Only…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 2 years ago
Hi Berean,
Thank you for your answer. Please answer this now that you have had more time to think about it:
I hypothesize that the Father is interdependent with the Son in being the one true God, not independent from the Son in being the one true God.
Do you agree Berean?
Lightenup replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 2 years ago
You’re welcome Miia.
Have a great 2023!
Peace, LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 2 years ago
Hi Carmel,
I believe that Jesus was born of Mary even though He pre-existed as one born of God before creation. I believe that Jesus was born in the flesh and given to us.
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