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    Delriomike
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    Quote (Pastry @ Feb. 06 2012,02:50)

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    Quote (Pastry @ Feb. 05 2012,05:24)
    wakeup

    You too don't “SEE” what you're reading.

    “””COUNT THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST”””

    What beast? the beast out of the earth, people.

    Who is that beast? the pope of the Catholic church.

    What is his number, the number of a man?

    It also says; Rev 13:17 …or the number of his name.  

    What is his name? what does the pope call himself?

    On the popes crown  is an inscription in Latin: “VICARIVS  FILII  DEI,” which means “Vicar of the Son of God.” Some Latin letters also have a numerical value.
    V     I     C     A     R     I     V     S    –    F     I     L     I     I    –    D     E     I
    5     1   100    0      0     1     5     0          0     1    50    1    1        500   0     1 = 666

    You claim to have God's Holy Spirit, so far you have shut him out.

    To identify the man whose name ads up to that number, is the only purpose for that number 666.

    Georg


    It amazes me how people look at the mark of the beast 666. Here is somehting to consider. The number of man is 6 right, man was made on the 6th day, his number is 6. Then there just happens to be 66 books in the Holy Bible (God's word) broken down you have the 5 books of the law then the books of the prophets then the New Testiment and then you have the book of Revealation a total of 66 books . Now consider this the bible tells us to be carnally minded is death, the day you pertake of the tree of knowledge of good and evil is death. Then if man's number is 6 and then the 66 books of the Holy Bible is 66 then that would make 666 or the mark of the beast, but you say that is not right. Let's look at it a minute  It is the mark of the beast. What? man's carnal understanding of the Holy Bible is the mark of the beast. . But then you would say that is not right let's look at it a minute. It is the carnal mind interpetation of the Holy Bible that has been passed down from the fall in the garden that the world is wondering after, all religions are wondering after the beast (666) All starting from the Catholic church right on day to the new religions that are springing up even as we speak. Then you say what is right and who is right? The secret is in the book of Revealation. It is in the first verse. THE REVEALATION OF JESUS CHRIST THAT GOD GAVE UNTO HIM(JESUS CHRIST)  was it given to the carnal mind? No it was given unto HIM.  Who is HIM? Well the carnal mind cant beleive this, but it was given unto Jesus Christ. Who is Jesus Christ? Where is he at? In what church does he exist? Well you say he has not come back yet so we will see him one day and he will take us away to heaven, false teaching, He IS COME already and some people can see him and sup with him while others cant as the bible teaches the wicked wont see when good cometh. But the pure in heart shall see him. I can see and do see him 24-7 can you see him?


    What was the purpose of using my post in your reply?

    Georg


    My purpose my friend is to put it in front of you and if you are not blind you can see what I am talking about and if you are blind you will do like thw swine do when they have pearls tossed in the pen with them, they rend and root them in the mud. Your carnal mind is a enemy of God and cannot understand spirit mind. You mihgt want to consider praying as asking God IF WHAT I AM POSTING MIGHT JUST BE THE TRUTH. You cant make a dog out of a God nor can you make a God out of a dog. If you get my drift. Thanks for undrstanding.

    #275956
    Delriomike
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2012,10:33)

    Quote (Delriomike @ Feb. 02 2012,00:18)
    The answer is the carnal mind is the harlot. The carnal mind cant comprehend the things of God with its carnal reasoning, the Spirit Mind cant not bet understood by carnal thinking, so to be carnally minded is DEATH. So then if you are Spiritually minded death has no power over you. This can be understood if you go to facebook and look up  DAD IN HIS OWN WORDS by Melody Pike Allen and read post 1-333 all are very short post but this breaks it down to where you can see what I am talking about.


    Hi Delriomike.

    rev17:3. So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a WOMAN sit upon a scarlet coloured beast,full of names of blasphemy,HAVING EVEN HEADS AND TEH HORNS.

    Verse.4. AND THE WOMAN WAS ARRAYED IN PURPLE AND SCARLET COLOUR,AND DECKED WITH GOLD AND PRECIOUS STONES AND PEARLS,HAVING A GOLDEN CUP IN HER HAND FULL OF ABOMINATIONS AND FILTHINESS OF HER FORNICATION:

    DELRIOMIKE WAS TAUGHT BY SOME TEACHER, THAT THIS WOMAN REPRESENTS THE CARNAL MIND.

    SO OUR MIND IS DECKED WITH GOLD AND AND PRECIOUS STONES,AND PEARLS,AND OUR MIND HAS A GOLDEN CUP WITH ALL OUR ABOMINATIONS AND FILTHINESS.AND SITTING ON A SCARLET COLOURED BEAST WITH SEVEN HEADS AND TEN HORNS.(REALLY??)

    IF THIS IS THE STATE OF OUR MIND THEN IT WILL BE IMPISSIBLE TO PICKUP THE BIBLE AND READ,FOR THIS ABOMINABLE MIND WILL NOT ALLOW US TO READ.WE ARE ALL LOST,WITH A MIND LIKE THAT; WE ARE WORSE THAN SODOM AND GOMORAH.

    Where did you pick that up,brother; drop it and come back to scriptures.You have been made drunk,with the wine of the scribes and pharisees.Come back.Take the antidote(scripture).

    with the love of Christ.

    wakeup.


    There is a old Chinese proverb I like to quote. Man convinced his will is of the same opinion still. I will not try to convince you agaisnt what you beleive. You can pour new wine in old wine skins, as it would crack them becasue they are so sure that they know and you cant change them. One day i suddenly realized that everything that I had ever been taught was wrong but I was able to turn around and now I see religion in a completley different view. I see it thru THE REVEALATION OF JESUS CHRIST. I see it with a spirit mind instead of the carnal mind.

    #275947
    Delriomike
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 05 2012,10:14)
    Gene, did you vote?  Rivermike………how about you?


    No I didnt vote. Sorry. I am a little shocked at the response that I get when i post on here. I was so excited to find this forum, but after reading and posting it seems to me that my post are not wanted so I appreciate the opportunity to post so since it is not wanted or desired I will sign off. It doesnt hurt I expected it but nevertheless I will go elsewhere. May god bless.

    #275905
    Delriomike
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2012,02:34)
    Hi Delriomike,

    Do you believe Jesus returned (in spirit form) on Pentecost?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Brother Ed, sure I do bleieve he returned on the day of Pentocost. I know he will restore the government of God and rule and reign on this earth for 1K years, who with? The saints or you could say his body. Who is his body. We, members in particular. I know that I am the least, so when you do it unto me you have done it unto him. He tried to tell them but they were too carnal minded to believe what he was telling them. He spoke in parabales to them that are without but spoke face to face to his body. Read what Paul and John worte. Paul wss in th desert for 3 1/2 years getting THE REVEALATION OF JESUS CHRIST, he came back and made this statement I could all my learning as dung (why he was a very highly educated man) but counted THE REVEALATION OF JESUS CHRIST everything. This government that God will rule with is being formed by God. How? He is calling his sheep (people who can hear his voice and not follow strangers) they are coming forth and they will rule and erign with him. It has to do with Joel's army they walk hand in hand and wont break ranks.I hope this clears it for you to understand what I am saying. Lord bless

    #275902
    Delriomike
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Feb. 05 2012,05:40)
    wakeup

    This is the reason why God left Jesus on the cross.

    Isa 59:2   But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.  

    It was the moment Jesus took on all of our sins that caused the father to turn away.

    Georg


    Jesus Christ was nailed to the cross, when he said it is finished what else do we need to add to it? Nothing, if he didnt finish it it wont be finished. He finished it. You need to understand what he did to finish it. First he made an end to sin, he folded up the law and laid it away. If three is no law how can one sin? Bible teaches He that is born of God doth not comit sin for the seed of God remainith in him and he cannot sin. So by doing away with the law making an end to sin, IT IS FINISHED. Now we just simply have to beleive it. You cant believe this if you are not one of his sheep. Note he said MY SHEEP KNOW MY OICE AND A STRANGER THEY WILL NOT FOLLOW. What and who are you following? Me I am following my father.

    #275899
    Delriomike
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Feb. 05 2012,05:24)
    wakeup

    You too don't “SEE” what you're reading.

    “””COUNT THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST”””

    What beast? the beast out of the earth, people.

    Who is that beast? the pope of the Catholic church.

    What is his number, the number of a man?

    It also says; Rev 13:17 …or the number of his name.  

    What is his name? what does the pope call himself?

    On the popes crown  is an inscription in Latin: “VICARIVS  FILII  DEI,” which means “Vicar of the Son of God.” Some Latin letters also have a numerical value.
    V     I     C     A     R     I     V     S    –    F     I     L     I     I    –    D     E     I
    5     1   100    0      0     1     5     0          0     1    50    1    1        500   0     1 = 666

    You claim to have God's Holy Spirit, so far you have shut him out.

    To identify the man whose name ads up to that number, is the only purpose for that number 666.

    Georg


    It amazes me how people look at the mark of the beast 666. Here is somehting to consider. The number of man is 6 right, man was made on the 6th day, his number is 6. Then there just happens to be 66 books in the Holy Bible (God's word) broken down you have the 5 books of the law then the books of the prophets then the New Testiment and then you have the book of Revealation a total of 66 books . Now consider this the bible tells us to be carnally minded is death, the day you pertake of the tree of knowledge of good and evil is death. Then if man's number is 6 and then the 66 books of the Holy Bible is 66 then that would make 666 or the mark of the beast, but you say that is not right. Let's look at it a minute It is the mark of the beast. What? man's carnal understanding of the Holy Bible is the mark of the beast. . But then you would say that is not right let's look at it a minute. It is the carnal mind interpetation of the Holy Bible that has been passed down from the fall in the garden that the world is wondering after, all religions are wondering after the beast (666) All starting from the Catholic church right on day to the new religions that are springing up even as we speak. Then you say what is right and who is right? The secret is in the book of Revealation. It is in the first verse. THE REVEALATION OF JESUS CHRIST THAT GOD GAVE UNTO HIM(JESUS CHRIST) was it given to the carnal mind? No it was given unto HIM. Who is HIM? Well the carnal mind cant beleive this, but it was given unto Jesus Christ. Who is Jesus Christ? Where is he at? In what church does he exist? Well you say he has not come back yet so we will see him one day and he will take us away to heaven, false teaching, He IS COME already and some people can see him and sup with him while others cant as the bible teaches the wicked wont see when good cometh. But the pure in heart shall see him. I can see and do see him 24-7 can you see him?

    #275883
    Delriomike
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2012,03:03)
    THE KINGDOM OF GOD HAS NOT COME YET.

    Some say that the kingdom of God has been set up 2000years ago,and it is here today.

    Lets see what daniel wrote.

    Dan.2:44. And in the days of these kings(10 kings) shall the God of heaven –SET UP– A KINGDOM,which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people,but it shall break in pieces and CONSUME ALL THESE KINGDOMS,and it shall stand for ever.

    He shall consume all these kingdoms;This can only mean babylon; will be consumed at his coming.rev.ch.18.Then Christ will set up his kingdom,not before.

    When God sets up his kingdom,there will be no more other kingdoms on earth,but his alone.

    But they say; The kingdom is inside us,this is true; if one follows christ where soever he goes the kingdom is in that person,because that person will be a peaceful person,a God fearing person knowing God, because he has been feeding on

    Gods word.But that person is only a small part of the whole kingdom that is coming.And this kingdom has borders,and a place on the map of the world, which is Israel,and jerusalem as the city.

    Sadly enough;Jesus also said; ''Many are called but a few chosen''. Only a few have the kingdom in them.
    Jesus also mentioned ''My little flock'', so it is only a small people that truly follow Christ,at his coming.

    Is his kingdom only a small kingdom?

    Isiah66:8.Who had heard such a thing? Who had seen such  things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth IN ONE DAY? OR SHALL A NATION BE BORN AT ONCE? For as soon as Zion travailed, ShE brought forth her children.(the resurrection in one day.)

    What have we learned from this? That the kingdom will be born in one day,NOT 2000 YEARS,BUT ONE DAY.
    Will it be a small nation ? no; all christians that have past the test,and managed to refuse the number of the beast will be

    given white robes,because their robes were not white, untill they chose not to take the mark.(rev7:14.) This is the time when all the luke warm christians will be put through the fire;but not the small flock,because they have followed Christ all along.

    The kingdom of God will come in one day; the day of the raising of the dead.

    Not every one that say lord, lord,wil be resurrected.
    They will be judged in the second resurrection,by the books.

    wakeup.


    It is set up but the blind cant see it. If the blind teachers keep doing what they have been doing for the past 6K years what do you expect them to beleive? The religous world just keeps onm trucking and teaching the false doctrine. My bible tells me THE KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD HAVE BECOME THE KINGDOMS OF THE WORLD AND HE SHALL RULE AND REIGN FOR EVER AND EVER. I dont know what you are doing, but I know what I am doing, the world just hassnt seen it yet, they will but it will be too late. Hope you see it too before it is too late for you.

    #275865
    Delriomike
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 04 2012,16:11)
    delriomike……………..How is it that the apostle Paul said “we” which  included himself was  “WAITING” for that redemption of the body when he was alive on this earth in His flesh body, and you say you have Witted it already , have you died and and your “BODY” has been raised from the grave in order for you to say you have witted the redemption of your BODY? While we can have the promise of the resurrection in the future Spirit is not a “BEING” It is what is (IN) a BEING, and if that Spirit is of GOD then that Person has Spiritual enlightment given him from GOD.

    But we have this (IN) our House our bodies, which must be redeemed from corruption to incorruption, Because the Spirit can not be corrupted or dies, but a Body containing Spirit can die and the Spirit leaves it and goes back to him who gave it in the first place. If we want to exist as a LINING SOUL WE MUST have both a BODY with SPIRIT (IN) It. Because that what a LIVING SOUL IS.

    I don't believe God created this world and all the wonderful things in it, that has Bodies with spirits to be destoryed, But scripture say “the whole creation will be delievered from the bondage of corruption” The earth and everything in it is the crown Jewel of Gods creation and he said it was very good. I believe we will have bodies just like Jesus had after his resurrection and it was FLESH and BONE and that BODY was NOT A SPIRIT   Body according to him.

    I think you may be getting Spiritual enlightment right but that enlightenment is useless to us if it is not in a BODY of Some KIND Spirit out side of a BODY is useless because it has nothing to animate in a separate existence of one from another. While we can be same in Spirit  (INTELLECT) we still have to have our own separate Identity as Beings through our own bodies. “For God gives it a BODY JUST as HE PLEASES”. Spirits operate in and Through a BODY, therefor it say “that God may be all and (IN) you all, why becasue He is SPIRIT>  And Spirit is the “LIFE” of the BODY>  Man became a “LIVING SOUL”,  WHEN SPIRIT was INTRODUCED into his BODY>  IMO

    peace and love to you and yours………………………………………………………gene


    Gene we have beeen dead and in the grave and now we are ressurected in him. Loook at ti this way. I was alive I died and was buried in a watery grave, then I was ressurected and now it is no longer I that liveth but him. So now I am born of God what does that meake me> I know who I am, My sheep know my voice and a stranger they will not follow. This is werher the church so called world miss it. They are waiting for the return of Jesus Christ, I am not. The wod say He IS COME and they that deny that are anti christ, if you deny that he is come you are anti christ. I am hid with God in Christ the world cant see Jesus Christ but when the veil of flesh that surrounds us is unveiled then the world will see what they didnt recognize Jesus Christ. This is why that in the book of revealation that it said they would run to the mountains cry for the rocks to fall upon them see death and could not find it, when they realize who we are and that they have been deceived by the religious church world and caused them to miss it they will seek death. I know this is hard to beleife but it is the truth. You cant understand the spirit mind with the carnal mind quit trying to undertanad it carnally as you cant and wont.

    #275848
    Delriomike
    Participant

    Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 04 2012,22:40)
    Hi Dalriomike.

    Interesting points you make too about the carnel mind.  Can you explain though what you mean by we are not under the law?


    Yes, I think I can to where you understand and you enter into the real freedom of God. OK lets look at this for a moment. If you was driving in lets say Louisiana as that is whre I am. As you entered across the state line and there was a sign posted there is no law or speed limit against going as fast as you want, Then as you drive across the state you drive 130 mph, Would or could a police run you down and write you a ticket and say you have violated the law? No, why there is not a law aganst it. Now lets look at the bible it says ALL things are lawful but all things are not expedient. Now why are we not under the law? Well, IF we are born of God then we are bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh or in essence we are the body of Jesus Christ. Now look at it this way. He (Jesus Christ) made a end to sin (at calvary) he folded up the law and laid it away so the law does not exist to us (if we beleive)' If we are dead and buried with him then it is not us living but who Jesus Christ. Now look at this sin gets it strength by what? The law, if he made an end to sin where is sin? If he folded up the law (or made an end to sin) Where is the law, he made an end to it. You have to understand what happened at calvary, see most people cant get past calvary. They still hang on to the old testiment, but in the new testiment he siad I will do a new thing, what was the new thing? THE REVEALATION OF JESUS CHRIST that god gave unto HIM, Who is Him? It was unto Jesus Christ. Who is Jesus Christ? It has to be revealed unto you who Jesus Christ is. The bible says MY SHEEP KNOW MY VOICE AND A STRANGER THEY WILL NOT FOLLOW. Now when God reveals himself to you as to who you are then you understand that Jesus Christ IS COME in the flesh, notice it didnt say has come or will come it say IS COME, so instead of waiting for Jesus Christ to return or come back we realize that he IS COME and he is here now. But we have to recognize who we are and where he is. He is hid not from us but only to them that are lost. They cant find him but he is revealed unto babes such as would learn. Oh, incidently Joseph revealed himslef unto Benjamin his brother, this is what is now taking place Joseph had the cup and he revealed himself unto Benjamin after he made the rest of them go out of the room. The carnal mind will never accept this. Only the spirit mind will.

    #275840
    Delriomike
    Participant

    Most people try to put God in a box of intelligentual thinking. Well my friends you cant put God in a obx, you cant even see or comprehend God with you carnal mind, you have to have the spirit mind to comprehend God. I marvel at how the carnal mind tries to describe God and the sirit, it cant even get a glimpse of God. THE REVEALATION OF JESUS CHRIST THAT GOD GAVE UNTO HIM 9JESUS CHRIST) God has to be revealed unto you for you to understand and or see him.Can you understand this? The bible tells us thaat they wrestle the scriptures to their own destruction ever learning and never coming to the truth. Dont try to figure out God, but let him reveal himself to you.

    #275814
    Delriomike
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 04 2012,13:19)
    Mike………..Where in scripture does Jesus say he is a SPIRIT “BEING” or ever was ONE as far as that goes. Are you speaking for HIM Now? The last thing i recall him saying was  He was “NOT” (A)  SPIRIT at all.  You must have a different bible then we do do , fact is you are going by a Preconceived religious belief system you learned a long time ago about spirits being SENTINEL BEINGS, a complete false concept of Greek pagan methodology. You can thank, Plato, Aristotle and their Metaphysical teaching for that.  IMO

    peace and love……………………………………………………………….gene


    Mike and Gene first of all let me share soemthing with you that will help you. You cant make a dog beleive he is a horse no more than you can make a horse believe he is a dog. Whe God moves over the earth He says MY SHEEP KNOW MY VOICE AND A STRANGER THEY WILL NOT FOLLOW. First of all all the world religious world that is teaches you to go out and find God, right? Well let me inform you you cant find God. You cant get enough education or make enough money to find God, you wont an dont find him. He finds his lost sheep HE finds them they dont find him. See He said I HAVE NOT LOST ANY THAT THE FATHER GAVE ME. So what does this mean? If a person is ordained to receieve eternal life he will answer the VOICE when he calls. I answered that voice as I recoginized His voice. I assure you that I wasnt good enough, didnt have enough education or anything else it was his election that brought me to him nothing that I done to deserve him I deserved nothing, simply nothing it was by the mercy of God. The bible says we are waiting for the redemption of the body right? NO, it does not say that it says WE ARE WAITING TO WIT the redemption of the body, there is a world of differnece. I witted mine have you? God is getting a body of beleivers together and revealing himslef to them that will bring this change. It is Joseph revealing himslef to his brother Benjamin this is waht is happening now.

    #275813
    Delriomike
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 04 2012,14:06)
    Yes, but that doesn't answer the question.  To what does the word “spirit” in Luke 24:37 refer?  To a spirit BEING?

    In other words, what did the disciples THINK they were seeing before Jesus said he was not that?


    What they were seeing was lying vanities. You dont see with your 5 senses you only see with the spirit mind. Think of it this way when Jesus appeared in glory (before he went to calvary) with Moses and Elijah, Now remember this was before he went to calvary where was he when they saw him? How did they see him? See you cant see with your 5 senses you are observing lying vantities. Paul said they that observe lying vanties forsake their won mercy. see you must understand that the carnal mind cant understand God, never has and never will only God (THE REVEALATION OF JESUS CHRIST) can be understood by the Spirit Mind. To be carnally minded is DEATH, BUT TO BE SPIRITUALLY MINDED IS LIFE.

    #275812
    Delriomike
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 04 2012,13:39)
    To All……….All angel have “BODIES” with SPIRITS (IN) them Just like WE have BODIES with Spirit (IN) them also. They can live for ever in those (bodies) we can also with flesh Bodies for ever also.  IMO

    peace and love…………………………………………………gene


    Here is something for you to chew on. When the dead in Christ is ressurected and they come out of the graves as it is taught, what about the people that have been lost at sea and the sharks eat them and the ones in the fire burned to ashes and those that are cremated, and their ashes thrown all over the world, where will the be? Now before you go off on me I have the answer. You see there is a understanding thgru the spirit mind but not the carnal mind The carnal mind cannot undertand this or anything spiritual. See nothing that is made can be destroyed it only can be changed as matter is changed not destroyed. It simply changes forms. See everyone is wanting to save this flesh carnal mind, but this flesh is corruptable flesh, it is dust and will return back to the dust. You pass into a different dimension when you go to sleep in God, Thoses Christians that have passed on are still here but in another deminisioan, If you get in the deminisaion with them you can see and talk to them, they didnt go any where just changed deminisions. I hope you understand this the spirit mind can but the carnal mind cant and wont understand this.

    #275790
    Delriomike
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 04 2012,10:38)
    Hi T,
    Yes the external laws given were a light to the feet of true Israel.
    Now the law is of the Spirit to those chosen and blessed of God


    I proved all things and hold fast to that which is good. None good but God so that is what I hoold to God. I am a very fortunate persone to find what I have found wish everyone could find it, but if it is hid it is hid from the wise and reudent and evealed unto babes such as would learn.

    #275784
    Delriomike
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 01 2012,21:51)

    Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 01 2012,21:39)
    Rev 18:20 Rejoice over her, O heaven!
    Rejoice, saints and apostles and prophets!
    God has judged her for the way she treated you.

    Rev 18:24 In her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints,
    and of all who have been killed on the earth.

    She trades in Human souls. (Rev 18:13).


    Yes Shimmer.

    When Jeus said at the sermon of the mount; BLESSED ARE THE POOR: WAS HE TALKING ABOUT THE POOR THEN, AND NOW AND OF ANCIENT DAYS? OR what.

    OR DOES HE ONLY MEAN THE POOR CHRISTIANS?

    wakeup.


    Every one of you make some really good points. But what I see is that instead of using the spirit mind to understand the bible you are conmtinuing to go back to the carnal mind (intelectual mind or knowledge of good and evil) trying to interept the scriptures. If you note that God told Adam dont eat of that tree (tree of knowledge of good and evil as the day you do that day you will die) but Adam and Even couldnt resist pertaking of that tree (carnal mind). Now you might say what does that have to do with the harlot and her daughters? Well lets look at it a minute. What has the whole world wondered after? They have wondered after the tree of knowledge ever since the fall. But God hid the spirit mind from the fallen ones in the world lest they would pertake and get eternal life. So God hid it from the wise(carnal mind) but revealed it unto babies such as would learn. Lets look at Moses he went up on the mount and communicated with God came down off the mount and tried to give what he had to the people, but they told him Moses your face is so shining so brightly put a cover or veil and then we can talk to you, there again the carnal mind could not receive the spirit mind that Moses had so then what did they do they started worshiping the Law. The law was a school master unto us till we came to the fullness of Jesus Christ. He folded up the law and done away with it. We are now not under the law but if you think you are you are as a man thinkith in his heart so he is. I am not under the law are you? Get out from under the law but you cant if you are not ordained to recieve THE REVEALATION OF JESUS CHRIST. Remember that the book last book says THE REVEALATION OF JESUS CHRIST THAT GOD GAVE UNTO HIM WHO JESUS CHRIST so who are you? I am bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh, members in particular are you?

    #275741
    Delriomike
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 04 2012,06:23)
    Hi,
    Jesus is yet a man with a glorified body and one with His Father in Spirit in heaven while yet sharing that Spirit on earth with his brothers.
    The Spirit transcends such boundaries and gives hope to his followers that when the earth is burned up they too yet live.


    Nick have you ever considered that Jesus Christ has already come back and is walking the streets of this world? The religious world is waiting for him to come back, but his body (Jesus Christ-members of his body are waking up and recognizing he is here. The bible tells us We are waiting to wit the redemption of the body, not waiting to redemption but rather waiting to wit it. There is a great mystery in TO WIT. I witted it have you? Dop you see this? This is so wonderful when you get your eyes open, I love it.

    #275737
    Delriomike
    Participant

    You do not have to join the group to read you just go to FaceBook and where it says search type DAD IN HIS OWN WORDS and it will come up to Melody Pike Allen and you can see where she postundree doc then go to older post and scroll dwon until you get to @1 then start reading and read from 1=50 at least and this will give you a foundation of something that you may or may not already know abou the carnal mind which has the entire world drunk off the wine of the great qhore. If you need any help feel free to ask. Thanks God bless Mike

    #275735
    Delriomike
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 04 2012,04:03)
    Hi Delriomike,

    It came up on page 333.
    If you 'think' it is important for us,
    why don't you  post it here in a new thread?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    OK but I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer as I dont know exactly how to do that. Can you please tell me how to do that as I would love as I know it would help those who are searching for the truth. Thanks Mike

    #275720
    Delriomike
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,17:46)

    Quote (Delriomike @ Feb. 03 2012,19:54)
    Kinda wakeup: I found that carnal minded thinking when I read about it first time in Gen. 1 when Adam pertook of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and they have passed it down even until today but it is a lot stronger now as they have 6K years of knowwledge. The carnal mind cannot comproehend the things of God they wrestle it to thier own destruction.


    Del,

    This is to say,that even the devil himself was cut in his own game,he knew God ,but he thought to out run His God,and find out latter that he lost ,

    This is the best lesson I can see,

    Pierre


    You cant undertstand God with the carnal mind, you have to be born of God with the spirit mind in you to understand God. Period.

    #275718
    Delriomike
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 04 2012,01:28)

    Quote (Delriomike @ Feb. 03 2012,12:28)
    FOOD FOR THOUGHT Where was Jesus Christ when he looked at Nicademous and told he I am in heaven? Where was he? Was he really in heaven? I know he was I am in heaven also, you say that was Jesus but not you. Do you not recognize the same Jesus Christ today  in 2012? When you do it unto the least you do it unto me, I just happen to be the least in the kingdom. See Nicademous was looking at Jesus  thru the carnal mind that he was in so naturally he could not see him in heaven. The carnal mind cannot understand or see into the spirit world. The door was open into the spirit world and Jesus Christ was the door and now we can enter into the spirit world if you understand how to. Do you understand how to enter the spirit world? I do.


    To all…………..This is true , Heaven simply means from above, While earthy means from below. those that are from above are Heavenly or Spiritually  minded, and those that are from below are earthly or carnal minded.  This has nothing to do with any body whatsoever, but a position of thought, intellect and conscious awareness.

    A spiritual person is a mind guided by the spirit, and a Spiritual body is a “BODY” maintained by the Spirit. But it is a BODY as a Material physical Body  maintained by the Spirit of Life working (IN) it. This body is from above directly from GOD as Adam's was when he was first made before he sinned and he could have lived forever with that body as GOD said he could have.

    Mixing a physical material thing with Spiritual things is what is know as Metaphysical or (Platonic ideology) pagan thought. This is the source of Nealy all confusion in Christianity. Like the trinity, Preexistence and spirit BODIES etc.  You can not make a Spirit as a body of any kind, that simply is a false teaching.

    peace and love to you all……………………………………….gene


    Gene I like your understanding. You can email me [email protected] I woould love to chat with you you I think are on to the same thing that I have understood, not many people can get ahold of this.

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