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[Daniel]

T8, very cool that you are interested and want to know the detail of the facts.

Let me say that the early church father’s who determined what is “scripture” and what is not determined that The Book of Enoch’s discrepancy was:

The new testament states:
(Jude 14-15 appears to be a quote from 1 Enoch, which is also known as the Apocalypse of Enoch-
1 Enoch 1:9 And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones to execute judgment upon all, and to destroy all the ungodly; and to convict all flesh of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, and of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.
Jude 14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
Jude 15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

First, it should be noted that Jude is quoting Enoch himself, not from a book of Enoch. Second, there is apparently some question as to the exact dating of both Jude and 1 Enoch. Jude is by a single author, and is estimated by scholars to have been written from the mid to later half of the 1st century, while 1 Enoch was apparently written by several authors over a time period from about 200 B.C. to about the middle of the first century.

Since this does seem to allow for at least the possibility that 1 Enoch is actually quoting Jude, it was considered banished from the scriptures.

Right or wrong about the judgement, it gives the possibility that 1 Enoch is actually quoting Jude.

Hope this helps,

Dan

[Daniel]

I belive that  Enoch was excluded from both the Jewish and Christian canons because is pseudepigrapha — ascribed to a writer who did not write it.  The Aramaic language used would  indicate an authorship sometime in the 2nd or 3rd century B.C.   Virtually all the books considered over time to be apocryphal (by both Catholics and Protestants) can be expected to contain at least some truth in them. And they may even have some accurate historical accounts of Jesus or the disciples that did not make it into the canon. There are many parallels and similarities between canon and the pseudepigraphical books, but these books were generally rejected because of obvious flaws of one kind or another in doctrine or content that are apparent to virtually all Christian readers who have studied them. They are worth reading and studying, but they are not considered by the Christian community as a whole to be "the infallible word of God".  

I would say that Enoch is worth a read but only after you have steeped yourself in God’s word.  That will give you the "taste of the true" to allow you to separate that with is congruent with God’s word with that which isn’t.  It is interesting that when the F.B.I. trains bank personnel to recognize counterfeit money, they never actually see or handle counterfeit money — just the real thing.

Hope this helps!

Dan

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